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Post by Guest » 07.05.2009, 19:17

Who was the person who said they would stop around the 110mil mark :S

Im seeling selling and buyfor over 200mil and usually the market takes small steps- a few mil at a time but now imseieing like 50mil steps :|

Anyone care to explain where these people with 11,000 coins are?

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Post by Guest » 07.05.2009, 19:39

I guess those players are still playing and playing and playing. ;)

My theorie is going to be supported: Coins prices will never drop. ;)

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Post by Guest » 07.05.2009, 20:12

I agree they will never drop but someone said they would level out around 110mil... seeing that it is now DOUBLE that I think we need a new prediction and how its predicted... i cant afford 6bil per month for 40 extra buildings... i barely earn that much!

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Post by Guest » 08.05.2009, 01:30

felixbluindustries wrote:i cant afford 6bil per month for 40 extra buildings... i barely earn that much!
Real money coin buyers will never provide premium to everyone who wants it. Critics have panned my idea to accumulate at least a year's supply before going premium, but not doing so is like playing musical chairs for your life.

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Post by Guest » 08.05.2009, 06:06

i barely earn that either
i think is way to much 6 bil for a month. Coins will never drop thiss is true but we can slow the increase of the price. The last month there was a total lack of coins and everybody offered to buy coins at bigger price and so on. I see that is still a lack of coins now. I wish i had a stock with 10,000 coins

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Post by Guest » 08.05.2009, 11:21

Coin prices spiked to 22m in R2 in the last few weeks but they have droped a fair amount on the back of lower demand pricing but they will spike again as soon as demand increases again. Inflation is going to occur with AI prices always rising but as felix said its leaping forward far in excess of that rate. The good news, kind of, is that only a sellect few can afford at such a price and without the quick sale most coin buyers are looking for the price will level off or drop in the very near future and the total coin avalibilty will rise as more sellers are tempted to drop their hoards or buy more as they see a huge sale price.
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Post by Guest » 08.05.2009, 14:27

warrior1993 wrote:
I wish i had a stock with 10,000 coins
And you did have a stock of 10,000 coins, but then... oops..wrong post. :shock: :lol:

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Post by Guest » 08.05.2009, 15:19

felixbluindustries wrote:I agree they will never drop but someone said they would level out around 110mil... seeing that it is now DOUBLE that I think we need a new prediction and how its predicted... i cant afford 6bil per month for 40 extra buildings... i barely earn that much!

Well, now it went up fast.
But it did that some time ago to when it went up to the 110M point.
It was around 40M and suddenly it was 90M.
Then it was there for some time, it was 110M only for a few days but then someone flooded the market with coins at 100M.

That guy obviously ran out, the people buying coins had a small stock due to him and didn't really need to pay more then 100M for some time.
Next thing was people needing coins again so they started buying and outbidding eachother again which made the price rise to 200M in no time.
Why?
Just because some NEED coins and want to make sure they get them asap.
They don't have some backup coins and their premium runs out.
So its either boosting the price to get the coins you need for premium within a few days or you need patience.
Them not having the patience made the price skyrocket once more.


Its pure market system that is making this happen.
Over here we call it "varkenscyclus" which is "pig cycle" if i translate it.
When price goes up, more people want to buy so price goes up even more.
At some point people don't want to buy and more gets offered so price drops, but due to price dropping nobody is buying anymore...


With coins however, they won't get lost when you don't sell, so there will be a status quo untill people REALLY need coins again.
Why sell below the market when you can wait for offers that will come anyway?
So we had the 90M status quo some time ago untill everybody ran out of coins again and now the price went up again.


My prediction.
I see someone offering coins at 200M.
I doubt he'll sell them, but it will make others raise their price to.
Coins will get sold at 150M, people can make a profit of 150 a day on the 40 buildings, so they will be willing to continue paying that.

We'll have a status qou on the 150M, maybe 175M for a few months, then the 200M will be broken.



Why does price keep rising?
People get larger buildings, thus more profit, enabling them to pay more for their 40 extra buildings.

200M x 20 coins = 4B/month profit needed.
4B/40 buildings = 100M/building/month.
100M/30 days = 3.3M profit per building/day.

3.3M profit isn't that much.

I know a power producer with 32K plants in red will make a 10M profit daily each plant.
using that info maximum coin price would be:

10M x 30 days x 40 buildings
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20 coins

10M x 30 = 300M
300M x 40 = 12B
12B / 20 = 600M

So maximum price for a power producer would be 600M/coin.

However, the guy wouldn't make a profit anymore at that point!!


Is 600M the maximum coin price?
NO!

Power plants aren't the best business.
Currently Mines can make a better profit at maximum size.

Shops can even get a better profit, don't know how much is the best, but i think i've seen someone writing he would make a 3M profit/day on 2000m jewelers.
So a 32000m jeweler would then give 16x that profit being 48M daily profit.


Using the 48M profit, i'll just make it 50M, in a calculation:

50x30x40/20= 3B each coin.

That would make 3B the maximum value of coins.
However, the 3M profit/day on 2000m building is only an assumption.
Maybe others can get better info on the maximum profit on a building.

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Post by Guest » 08.05.2009, 18:45

i know that a furniture store or a jewler can make about 30-50 mil profit daily

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Post by Guest » 08.05.2009, 23:57

coin prices are absolutely insane now. Buying 50 coins with actual money and then selling them would give you such a massive bonus, damn.

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Post by Guest » 09.05.2009, 07:25

Tis all through the roof... And coins wont go up to the 48mil/building/day for the simple reason not that many people make that much cash anyway in their industries and so demand will drop massivley and people will just ask goldeneye for 3days of prem to sell off their buildings.

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Post by Guest » 09.05.2009, 15:38

I suggest we burn all the coins resellers at stake and things will go back to normal :twisted:

Anyway, i can still easily afford 20 coins monthly, even with half of my buildings expanding. That means if less and less people can buy coins, theres also less and less competition. And the only players left with premium are those who know how to make good money. Which means they have shops. Probably selling wardrobes. (or jewelry but those will go down because their suppliers will not be able to supply as much gold as before with only 60 mines :twisted: ) So if they are selling wardrobes, they must sell them for a reasonable price. Which means higher stats prices. Meaning more money for me.
Also there should be less people retailing the wardrobes imho because if you have smaller company and reasonable quality you make much more money making wardrobes. Which means we could push down the buying prices for wardrobes. But this game is full of *#$""&%& who dont even try to optimize their companies so my predictions will most likely not come true.

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Post by Guest » 14.05.2009, 18:35

Hey how can i sell my coins contact me in game please?.

turtlemoviesco is my company.

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Post by Guest » 19.05.2009, 15:00

Well,

Golden Eye,

What happens if i say i am selling 9650 coins at 100k each? then no-one will buy from the top people, right?

So there is a way...

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Post by Guest » 19.05.2009, 15:08

Well... if you do so you might risk a ban of your account. ;)

I do not know what you want to point out... ;)

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