[10.06.2007][21:00] Gas station E:20 200m
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first of all..
this is an auction not a commenting thread.. so please send your comments to me with an IGM not to this thread..
secondly
in 2 days and 12 hours you can sell 75.000 hl gas with this station in turkey..
the profit margin depends on whether you produce the gas yourself or not..
my experience shows that you can sell gas with at least 10 caps net profit as per hl.. that means within 2 days and 12 hours you will make, in the worst case, 750.000 caps net profit.
if you are producing your own gas and oil then your gas cost will be maximum 4 caps as per hl.. that means you will be able to make 25 caps net profit as per hl of gas. That will yield 1.875.000 caps `net` profit within two and a half days.
third
the cost of ads you put is the best price. when you start to purchase 120.000 ad points at once you will never be able to source it with that price.. if you wanna source it for 39 caps then you will need to wait.. that means you will lose time again.
final:
this is an auction. if you wont bid do not write anything here..
thanks for reading.
regards
this is an auction not a commenting thread.. so please send your comments to me with an IGM not to this thread..
secondly
in 2 days and 12 hours you can sell 75.000 hl gas with this station in turkey..
the profit margin depends on whether you produce the gas yourself or not..
my experience shows that you can sell gas with at least 10 caps net profit as per hl.. that means within 2 days and 12 hours you will make, in the worst case, 750.000 caps net profit.
if you are producing your own gas and oil then your gas cost will be maximum 4 caps as per hl.. that means you will be able to make 25 caps net profit as per hl of gas. That will yield 1.875.000 caps `net` profit within two and a half days.
third
the cost of ads you put is the best price. when you start to purchase 120.000 ad points at once you will never be able to source it with that price.. if you wanna source it for 39 caps then you will need to wait.. that means you will lose time again.
final:
this is an auction. if you wont bid do not write anything here..
thanks for reading.
regards
basicly he has the right to comment your auction and warn the bidders that this auction might not be fair.....Bilge wrote:first of all..
this is an auction not a commenting thread.. so please send your comments to me with an IGM not to this thread..
secondly
in 2 days and 12 hours you can sell 75.000 hl gas with this station in turkey..
the profit margin depends on whether you produce the gas yourself or not..
my experience shows that you can sell gas with at least 10 caps net profit as per hl.. that means within 2 days and 12 hours you will make, in the worst case, 750.000 caps net profit.
if you are producing your own gas and oil then your gas cost will be maximum 4 caps as per hl.. that means you will be able to make 25 caps net profit as per hl of gas. That will yield 1.875.000 caps `net` profit within two and a half days.
third
the cost of ads you put is the best price. when you start to purchase 120.000 ad points at once you will never be able to source it with that price.. if you wanna source it for 39 caps then you will need to wait.. that means you will lose time again.
final:
this is an auction. if you wont bid do not write anything here..
thanks for reading.
regards
also you said that the building time is 2days and 2 hours that means that in this time your gas station isn't 200sqm so you cannot sell as much gas as you said so think again your price
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basicly he has the right to comment your auction and warn the bidders that this auction might not be fair.....
also you said that the building time is 2days and 2 hours that means that in this time your gas station isn't 200sqm so you cannot sell as much gas as you said so think again your price[/quote]
first of all he has not the right to comment about it.. at least he does not have a right to start a debate in the auction. check out the others examples and see the attitude of tycoon for debating in the auctions forum. i am not saying it myself.. tycoon warns people about it..
second issue i see that you have no idea or grasp about what i am saying..
when you buy a ready built 200 sqm gas station that means you dont need to wait for 2 days.. so when you "buy" a 200 sqm station that means it is "ALREADY 200 SQM"!!
let me tell it for you in a more open way
alternative 1:
you wont buy the station you choose to build it.. then it will take some amount of building cost which is stated above. plus 40.000 ad points will have a cost which is also stated above.. and there will be an opportunity cost which means the revenue you will lose because of your choice to build the station yourself.. and that opportunity cost is the profit that you could make in that 2 days of building time.. and it is also calculated above by me.. and as i have been operating these station for at least a month my calculations are strictly correct!!!
in alternative 1: calculate the building cost + ad points cost + opportunity cost
alternative 2:
you go to the auction, bid and pay the price and get an "ALREADY 200 SQM GAS STATION" and start selling you gas..
so if you have reasoning or a little bit arithmetic mind you can sum up the numbers of alternative 1 and you can find out the number that you should bid in the auction.. and i am telling you.. it wont be less than the starting bid of this auction..
is it clear enough for you to understand mate? if not please kindly igm me and i will send you the basic information about business management..
basicly he has the right to comment your auction and warn the bidders that this auction might not be fair.....
also you said that the building time is 2days and 2 hours that means that in this time your gas station isn't 200sqm so you cannot sell as much gas as you said so think again your price[/quote]
first of all he has not the right to comment about it.. at least he does not have a right to start a debate in the auction. check out the others examples and see the attitude of tycoon for debating in the auctions forum. i am not saying it myself.. tycoon warns people about it..
second issue i see that you have no idea or grasp about what i am saying..
when you buy a ready built 200 sqm gas station that means you dont need to wait for 2 days.. so when you "buy" a 200 sqm station that means it is "ALREADY 200 SQM"!!
let me tell it for you in a more open way
alternative 1:
you wont buy the station you choose to build it.. then it will take some amount of building cost which is stated above. plus 40.000 ad points will have a cost which is also stated above.. and there will be an opportunity cost which means the revenue you will lose because of your choice to build the station yourself.. and that opportunity cost is the profit that you could make in that 2 days of building time.. and it is also calculated above by me.. and as i have been operating these station for at least a month my calculations are strictly correct!!!
in alternative 1: calculate the building cost + ad points cost + opportunity cost
alternative 2:
you go to the auction, bid and pay the price and get an "ALREADY 200 SQM GAS STATION" and start selling you gas..
so if you have reasoning or a little bit arithmetic mind you can sum up the numbers of alternative 1 and you can find out the number that you should bid in the auction.. and i am telling you.. it wont be less than the starting bid of this auction..
is it clear enough for you to understand mate? if not please kindly igm me and i will send you the basic information about business management..
Sure I do, I have every right.. Freedom of speech (or posting for this matter), Ive read the rules, (Discussions in auctions threads are like spam and so they get cleared.) I was not out to start a discussion, I was just giving you advice mate, yeah, maybe I should have send a PM or IGM, but I did not..Bilge wrote: first of all he has not the right to comment about it.. at least he does not have a right to start a debate in the auction. check out the others examples and see the attitude of tycoon for debating in the auctions forum. i am not saying it myself.. tycoon warns people about it..
All I wanted to do with my comment in this auction was to express that normaly a auction a chance for people to bid on something that's below the cost price (this also helps the seller sell it faster) and also enlighten other people that this is not a golden opporturnity to get a cool building..
And what's wrong with some friendly advice, all I was telling you, was that I think your building is too expencive to start with, you could have taken that into consideration, knocked down the price a bit and maybe got some actually bids..

You can actually get it even cheaper, if you know the right places to ask.Bilge wrote: the cost of ads you put is the best price. when you start to purchase 120.000 ad points at once you will never be able to source it with that price..
Sorry I didn't catch this earlier:
No discussion in auction threads please. It bumps the thread unfairly over other threads, and makes it harder to find the latest bid. If you want to give a tip to the auctioner, make it by PM. If you want to comment to (potential) bidders, just don't.
At this moment, here is the status:
Turkey:29731 Gas station E:20 200m
No discussion in auction threads please. It bumps the thread unfairly over other threads, and makes it harder to find the latest bid. If you want to give a tip to the auctioner, make it by PM. If you want to comment to (potential) bidders, just don't.
At this moment, here is the status:
Turkey:29731 Gas station E:20 200m
do you all have problem with me??VMPIE wrote:i thought every corp has the right to post only 1 ad, but this guy has 3 and bumping em all. can any1 close some? delete wouldbe even better.
the moderators write not to comment on this thread and you still keep on posting comments here..
dear vmpie, if you check the deadlines of my auctions you will see that they are all different. you are right about single post thing but it is not valid in the auctions.. it is valid in the other forums.. if you check them out you will see that i have only one thread in every forum..
yes i demand the moderator to delete all my auctions because i am sick and tired of people like you.. your message is very obviously hostile.. i am trying to sell something here.. if you dont want to buy it.. dont buy it i dont care.. i sold 30 gas stations and wells in the last two weeks.. why are you attacking me? whats your problem with me??
i see you are trying to sell your company.. (most probably because of your wrong business choices and failure). what if i had gone to your thread and sabotage your efforts? what if i demand the moderator to delete your account in the forum site?
to moderator: please delete all my auctions in here.. cause people didnt seem like to understand the logic behind it..
I'm going to Lock this, not delete, because I want people to learn from it.
1. Do not comment in the thread. Make a PM to the seller, or to a Mod (myself or Tycoon) if you have something to say.
2. See rule 1
3. Multiple auctions from one person are ok. Mutliple sales threads or buy threads from one person is not ok. You can put multiple auctions in one thread, but that can get confusing so multiple are fine.
1. Do not comment in the thread. Make a PM to the seller, or to a Mod (myself or Tycoon) if you have something to say.
2. See rule 1
3. Multiple auctions from one person are ok. Mutliple sales threads or buy threads from one person is not ok. You can put multiple auctions in one thread, but that can get confusing so multiple are fine.