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Noob needs advice - fruit business

Post by Guest » 03.04.2009, 18:40

Hello,

I began playing yesterday and am liking this game quite.
But I think I made a mistake when entering the orange growing business - a judgement based on a high demand and low supply.

Now I realize this low supply might be because it is not a very lucurative business.

My question is:
Do you think it will be possible for me to sell low quality oranges on the market for a reasonable profit, or will I have to sell it all in my grocery?

Second question:
How dependant are groceries on adverticements?
I have already invested in reasonable advertisements in my grocery store, but if I rely heavilly on sales in grocery, maybe I should build a second asap.

Thank you for your time.

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Post by Guest » 03.04.2009, 20:21

You might want to take a look at this, it will answer a lot of your questions.
http://www.forum.kapilands.com/viewtopic.php?t=4434

My advice: stick to raw materials for now like stones oil/water wood and sell it to people by contract or on the market.
And sell your grocery,it is not profitable. :D

Ads are needed in every story.
Once you have 40000 ad points the sellingtime will be cut in half.

How ads work you will also find in the link.

Guest

Post by Guest » 03.04.2009, 20:26

Thank you!

So reset my company... again, I guess.

Guest

Post by Guest » 03.04.2009, 20:53

Stay away from producing steel!!
Until you can make high quality, stay away from it.
I suggest buying mines plantations and wells and powerstations.
And keep expanding as much as you can.
Welcome. :wink:

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Post by Guest » 03.04.2009, 21:02

Yes, thank you. I have an idea on how to start now!

Shouldn't low quality steel still be valuable, since it is still needed when constructing buildnings? Or does quality steel mean that less will be needed for construction?

btw; wells in yellow areas, right?

And another thing: If there is little profit in most store goods - why produce them at all?

Guest

Post by Guest » 03.04.2009, 22:30

Gooner wrote:Yes, thank you. I have an idea on how to start now!

Shouldn't low quality steel still be valuable, since it is still needed when constructing buildnings? Or does quality steel mean that less will be needed for construction?

btw; wells in yellow areas, right?

And another thing: If there is little profit in most store goods - why produce them at all?
No, the quality of steel has nothing to do for expansions, only to produce cars, toys and so on.
Yes, wells in yellow areas.
In R1 producing steel Q0 only makes you to loose money, just check the calculations:
To produce steel you need: 2 kg Iron ore 5 kg Coal 0.5 kg Chemicals 200 kWh Power
On the market this moment you can buy:
Iron Ore at 7,00 each
Coal at 9,00 each
Chemicals at 24,99 each
Power at 0,26 each
So Steel = 2 x 7,00 + 5 x 9,00 + 0,5 x 24,99 + 200 x 0,26 = 123,50 (but only cause iron ore and coal are too low)
And if you produce everything you will loose more money, cause with power and water prices you'll make more money on producing those and selling them in market or contract, than producing those and using them to produce coal, iron ore, minerals and chemicals.
You can only profit with steel if you have a large production of hight quality steel (Steel Q20+)

Guest

Post by Guest » 03.04.2009, 22:50

Quality 0 steel is always needed for expansion, but to produce, it costs a lot, there is little profit.
You can buy steel from the npc on the market for 135.
If you want to know if a product is worth producing, just look at the elements/ingredients of that product and see how much you could sell those for at the market.
Sometimes you will find the elements are worth more then the product itself.
So why bother producing it.
Just sell the elements.
This is most of the time the case with steel.

You use Q0 steel and Q0 wood to expand your buildings, because you want to keep the higher qualities for making products like wardrobes or whatever other product needs steel.
The higher the quality of your product, the faster it will sell in a store.

Stores are good profit, but unfortunately food and drink stores are not so good.
I am not saying they are very bad but they are certainly not the best stores to have..
The best stores to get when you are a bit bigger, are gasstations and textilestores where you can sell leather jackets.
Later when you get even bigger you can start selling wardrobes in furniturestores, and you can try things for yourself ofcourse.

Fruit..well I would not buy a fruitplantation if I want to make a lot of profit.
But for now I would just make as much cash as you can by selling the raw materials.
Textiles are also good to sell on the market but they take 3 cotton to produce, so you need a lot of cotton to make a decent amount of textiles to sell.:shock:

Stores are built in red, wells and mines in yellow and productionbuildings in red or green, I prefer red.
What is the difference:
In green less production but also lesser productioncosts.
In red higher productioncosts but higher production.
Once your buildings get bigger you will notice a lot of difference in production between green and red, and I mean a lot!

Plantations in green.
Powerstations in green and red:powerprice on the market high, then red is best, marketprice low, green is best, so just mix it.

Well, Icould go on, there is alot more to tell, but you should figure things out for yourself too.
A lot of answers can be found by reading through this forum.
And ofcourse your own experience.
Just ask whatever you want to know and have fun. 8)

Guest

Post by Guest » 04.04.2009, 08:36

Thank you both for your time!

Yes, I think I have a steady business now on R1 atleast. (on R2 I built a factory to refine my oil into gas, not realising that my gas is in low demand...)

Guest

Post by Guest » 04.04.2009, 08:43

Wow, with high prices on power, starting out with 3 powerplants seems reasonably profitable.

Guest

Post by Guest » 04.04.2009, 08:59

in r1 you can grow fast with power plants
you make alot of power and you have like 2600% ROI(return on investment)
in a matter of days you will grow very fast

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