Ok I have 50million to invest in oil/gas. What should my set up of buildings be?
I don't even know where to get started at with my building ratio. Please help =)
Need help from top oil/gas companies
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I'd suggest doing one thing at a time. With current prices, you do not make good returns until you have a lot invested in research - Q10 is really the point where gas starts to work about as well as just selling stones. From there, things get better fast, but getting there is a fair hurtle.
To keep things simple, I would first invest in a mine and well RC. I would research to at least Q20 oil. Then, I would buy maybe 20 wells and start expanding them. Until the day comes when you will be using the oil yourself, I would produce water, as the rate of return is better then low Q oil. At about the same time, I would buy a chemical RC. See where this is going? About the time you hit Q20 gas research, I would buy 20 factories, and immediately expand them to match your wells potential oil output.
During this whole process, I would use the remaining slots on something that earns money efficiently without research. About the best you can do is 20m2 plantations. For buildings past 20m2, mines used for stones are a good option. Power plants have their value - as one way or another all end products will need power.
I would skip wood research, as it does not pay off as much as ... is easily imagined. This is almost a spoiler, but compare the production cost difference between q0 and q3 wood to the amount people will pay for Q. All of a sudden, seeds look like the only efficient method of gaining Q in wood. Not be unmentioned, making you own stones and q0 wood is a fine way to subsidize expansion. Last but not least, chase contests like mad.
Next step? One of the keys is understanding that sales is best done in late game. Retail is not hit by the "expansion penalty" as buildings get larger. On the other hand, until those penalties start kicking you in soft meaty tissue production is almost always a better way to make money. Once you hit the point where you have 20 1000m2 factories and 20 wells to match, and are starting to feel those expansion penalties, you might want to consider sales. At that point, I would start with 500m2 gas stations (with full ads) and skip small retail stores. In the end, the most efficient path is to phase out production as much as possible, buy goods from other players, and just do retail. There is some risk in this, but if you look carefully at the largest companies they look more like this every day.
Once you get all 5 parts in place, I would buy 2nd RC's of each type. From there, it is a matter of keeping constant balanced expansion in motion.
IF you have the option of buying research and speeding up this process, I would take it.
So, back to your budget of 50 million. Um, you need more money. Invest it it whatever will give you the best return. Get to the point where you have 20M a day to invest that you don't need back anytime soon. Then invest in research and the rest of it.
When a server is young, this is not so true. Things do not have established prices and average Q's are not so high. Research inflation changes that.
There you go, a birth to death plan for a gas company in Kapi as it is now.
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This will be my last rant for a while. I am going on a trip to a sandy place and my ability to be online ... will be uncertain. Best of luck all.
- Capitalis/David
To keep things simple, I would first invest in a mine and well RC. I would research to at least Q20 oil. Then, I would buy maybe 20 wells and start expanding them. Until the day comes when you will be using the oil yourself, I would produce water, as the rate of return is better then low Q oil. At about the same time, I would buy a chemical RC. See where this is going? About the time you hit Q20 gas research, I would buy 20 factories, and immediately expand them to match your wells potential oil output.
During this whole process, I would use the remaining slots on something that earns money efficiently without research. About the best you can do is 20m2 plantations. For buildings past 20m2, mines used for stones are a good option. Power plants have their value - as one way or another all end products will need power.
I would skip wood research, as it does not pay off as much as ... is easily imagined. This is almost a spoiler, but compare the production cost difference between q0 and q3 wood to the amount people will pay for Q. All of a sudden, seeds look like the only efficient method of gaining Q in wood. Not be unmentioned, making you own stones and q0 wood is a fine way to subsidize expansion. Last but not least, chase contests like mad.
Next step? One of the keys is understanding that sales is best done in late game. Retail is not hit by the "expansion penalty" as buildings get larger. On the other hand, until those penalties start kicking you in soft meaty tissue production is almost always a better way to make money. Once you hit the point where you have 20 1000m2 factories and 20 wells to match, and are starting to feel those expansion penalties, you might want to consider sales. At that point, I would start with 500m2 gas stations (with full ads) and skip small retail stores. In the end, the most efficient path is to phase out production as much as possible, buy goods from other players, and just do retail. There is some risk in this, but if you look carefully at the largest companies they look more like this every day.
Once you get all 5 parts in place, I would buy 2nd RC's of each type. From there, it is a matter of keeping constant balanced expansion in motion.
IF you have the option of buying research and speeding up this process, I would take it.
So, back to your budget of 50 million. Um, you need more money. Invest it it whatever will give you the best return. Get to the point where you have 20M a day to invest that you don't need back anytime soon. Then invest in research and the rest of it.
When a server is young, this is not so true. Things do not have established prices and average Q's are not so high. Research inflation changes that.
There you go, a birth to death plan for a gas company in Kapi as it is now.
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This will be my last rant for a while. I am going on a trip to a sandy place and my ability to be online ... will be uncertain. Best of luck all.
- Capitalis/David
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Just to point you in the right direction; one well produce slightly more than one factory needs, use kapitools to find your best balance. Remember any overproduction of oil can easilly be sold but if you produce too litle your factories will be idle. Ofcourse you can buy some on the market but this is very expencive.
Second as you advance in rank your production output will slow down but your stores will not be affected. This leads to a relative lower need of stores versus factories as you grow bigger. Before investing in many big stores check your output at your next lvl, maby some stores will be idle...?...
Second as you advance in rank your production output will slow down but your stores will not be affected. This leads to a relative lower need of stores versus factories as you grow bigger. Before investing in many big stores check your output at your next lvl, maby some stores will be idle...?...
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