Contest quality

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 26.07.2007, 22:40

My plan is to pretty much research everything to Q2 and then sell the research plants I don't need.
Are the contest products ever higher than Q2?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 26.07.2007, 22:51

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.07.2007, 06:53

Great plan. But contest qualities change.

And to produce silver q2 you need to research silver at q6. And what if cars are the contest product?

Makes no sense to me.

BTW: You can only sell researches or building if you are manager (64 Mio. caps total capital)

Elwood

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.07.2007, 09:34

True true - I hadn't really thought this through!!
But, what tends to be the quality of contest items then? I've been around for 2 contests. Gold Q1 (I think!) and Oil Q2.
Do most people keep all the RC's then - just for the contests?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.07.2007, 10:08

The contests are designed to give new players a good source of income. They will never be for really high quality and never be for really high end products like cars, unless Nase want the market on everything to increase which is highly unlikely.

Power and water are always going to be a key to contests, not for all contests, for example the latest contest has made the price on water go up but not so much the power price. The contest before that made the price of power high.

If you are into car production and are not a ~businessman, then you won't make enough profit and will sort of stagnate. As usual I could be wrong...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.07.2007, 11:17

Well lucky for me I've never produced one single car!!
I'm making tables - with a large excess of wood.

That's good to know about the quality then - so is Q3 just about the maximum then?

Also - you can sell buildings at any level. You probably just don't lose as much money as manager!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.07.2007, 13:05

Yes, you can sell buildings at any level, but until you reach Manager, you can only sell them to the system, for a loss. At Manager level, you can then sell them to other players, for whatever you can negotiate with the buyer.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.07.2007, 17:26

I just took a look in the german version. The contest product there now is glass q5.

Elwood

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.07.2007, 17:47

I made the calculation myself to see if it is interesting to setup a company just for contest and selling it after it is done.

Unfortenately the ROI is negative, which means that it isn't in my interest to deal with it.

For oil under IFRS norms :

What do we need ?

We need a well and a Technical RC.

Well : 240,000 caps producing 560 oil / day
Technical RC : 150,000 caps

Constest : Sunday to Friday so it is 13 days of constest game.

For oil Q2, you need to research oil Q4 : 5000 caps so it is 1 days 19 hours.

So, it is 11 days and 5 hours of production or 269 hours or 11,20 days.

What is the daily depreciation or / unit ?

As Small Businessman, which is my case :

Well cost : 251225 caps (building + materials + 2 employees)
RC : 162425 caps (same)

Total : 413650 caps

Depreciation / days : 36905 caps
Depreciation / oil : 65,90 caps

Research : 5000 / (560*11,20) = 0,79 caps
Fix cost : 100 power * 0,1 caps + 9 caps = 19 caps

Total cost / unit : 65,90 + 0,79 + 19 = 85,70 caps

Sold at 95 caps.

What is the margin of the production ?

Total margin : (95 - 85,70)*560*11,20 = 58394 caps

What is the Return of investment of this project ?

ROI = (Gain / Investment)

We sold the building at the end :

Well : 180000
RC : 112500

Total : 292500 + 58394 = 350894 caps of gain

=> 350894 / 413650 = 0,8483
=> 1 - 0,8483 = - 15,17%

At the end of this project the ROI is negative. So, the project isn't acceptable.