All the prices going up

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All the prices going up

Post by Guest » 28.06.2007, 22:16

Has anyone have an idea what is causing all the price increase?
Almost all I sell (and buy) went up.
High quality seeds have gone up
It's hard to buy q0 wood for less than 40c
Chemicals price increased about 25% and there are only few offers on the marketplace.
Iron and coal went slighlty up.
Oil went up

Is this maybe because summer started and there are fewer new players to make the basic products?
Or maybe someone has a good theory why is this happening.

Guest

Post by Guest » 28.06.2007, 23:16

I'm quite new so I ask you, is this a long term trend you've noticed, or a short term fluctuation?

So far as wood is concerned, if you can afford to build a plantation, it might well be worth making your own. I have a plantation dedicated to wood.

If prices for raw materials are going up, then now is the time to get into producing and selling raw materials. Have prices for finished goods also increased? Have the prices you can get for goods when you retail them also increased? I'm unsure yet how complex that part of things is modelled. If retail prices have increased, that would naturally cause an increase in raw material costs. From what I read, the population of an area, and thus demand, increase when folks buy status buildings. Perhaps a lot of folks have recently reached the stage when they're buying status buildings.

I guess the current competition might have slightly affected seed prices. Not sure why the others would be rising, unless the next competition product has been leaked, or is being guessed at.

I guess inflation is common throughout the real world, and Kapilands doesn't escape either. In the real world inflation has a number of root causes. The one that might apply to Kapilands is the over-abundance of cash. If money comes into the system (through retail, new players, cheating, and probably some other sources) faster than it leaves it (through the contest, buying of status goods, and rich players leaving. And other stuff I've not thought of.), then it is inevitable that the value of the cap in your pocket will slowly be eroded.

It would be interesting to measure inflation like real countries do, by taking the prices of a "basket" of common goods, and comparing that over time. I, however, am altogether too lazy to do that.

Guest

Post by Guest » 29.06.2007, 06:43

I see what you're talking about, it happens in other products too. Then again it depends where you look. A few weeks ago stones were selling for up to 15, now they are regularly below 10.

There was one catalyst about a month ago after which things never fully reset. One cheater was attempting to clear out the markets, and this pulled out a lot of the "buffer" products that help keep things down. Many never returned to the pre-event pricing.

That said, it's ultimately all supply and demand, and apparently demand has been higher than supply. If people notice and switch in, it should balance back. Also, I think there is a move over time out of some products and into others as players grow larger.

For example, power is a fine business when you are small. But as you grow larger and level up, your production power decreases. The only way to avoid becoming less and less profitable is have a product that increases in quality. So as companies get larger, they switch from making power to buying it. That will push power up. This is why the power price in the established German version is still considerably higher than it is here.

Guest

Post by Guest » 29.06.2007, 09:17

Well sometimes the Contest is to blame, Just kidding, but seriously, it does contributes to this (directly or indirectly).

But none the least, as times goes by, the supply and demand will shift, perhaps due to more ppl will venture into that product thinking its profitable, hence resulting lower price provided the supply catches up with the demand, if not, the high prices is here to stay.

Perhaps you might want to re-think your business approach so you can keep your cost low and get the best margin out of it.

Guest

Post by Guest » 29.06.2007, 10:08

I noticed small fluctuations before. For example when I started playing wood prices went up so much that I started making wood which I still do but for a smaller scale.
I noticed power prices going up, and other products but now in whatever branch of products I looke they have higher prices than before.
If everything gets more expensive then who benefits?
Everyone but the retailers.
And this is strange because large companies usualy try to keep prices low, and do it pretty well.

Guest

Re: All the prices going up

Post by Guest » 29.06.2007, 12:09

Catch_or wrote:Is this maybe because summer started and there are fewer new players to make the basic products?
Or maybe someone has a good theory why is this happening.
Ya, Read This

Guest

Post by Guest » 29.06.2007, 12:17

The main reason is that the biggies had already so outgrown their poor suppliers of raw materials that the supply of raw materials coming from newbees ceased to cover the demand of big players.

Almost everyone in the top list made in previous months a fortune buying raw materials at awful prices (e.g coal @5, water @0.05, power @0.05, wood @20, etc. ). Now the reaping of suppliers had stopped and the prices approach slowly to what can be called fair levels.

Guest

its life ;p

Post by Guest » 30.06.2007, 08:26

It will happen to anything.. when you get new players, they look at the forums for help.. and all they see is ok make basic raw material for newbies to grow.. they do, they outgrow and turn into the bigger companys and start to produce wine, and more advanced things.

If theres not enough new people joining to keep up with demand of the big companys then theres gonna be price booms and price crashes all over the game.. but its a good thing.. gives the game a more realistic aproach ;p

Newbies can also determine a object price sometimes.. eg;
when your get a huge flood of new peoples they don't know what to set prices so they go for the lowest thinking quick cash others see this they do the same.. so on so forth..

=]

Guest

Re: its life ;p

Post by Guest » 01.07.2007, 21:22

JamesMan wrote:It will happen to anything.. when you get new players, they look at the forums for help.. and all they see is ok make basic raw material for newbies to grow.. they do, they outgrow and turn into the bigger companys and start to produce wine, and more advanced things.

If theres not enough new people joining to keep up with demand of the big companys then theres gonna be price booms and price crashes all over the game.. but its a good thing.. gives the game a more realistic aproach ;p

Newbies can also determine a object price sometimes.. eg;
when your get a huge flood of new peoples they don't know what to set prices so they go for the lowest thinking quick cash others see this they do the same.. so on so forth..

=]
Does selling Q0 steel for 125 via contracts count?

Guest

Post by Guest » 01.07.2007, 21:24

why would you sell steel for 125 when you can easily sell for 133. where is the benefit of loosing 8caps per each kg of steel?????

Guest

contracts

Post by Guest » 02.07.2007, 07:40

they don't get effected as much since most people just buy sell off each other less contact to outside world for compition.. but like stajny said why would you sell so cheap when you can easly get more =|

Guest

Post by Guest » 02.07.2007, 10:12

maybe the steel supplier gets chems or some other materials from the end customer at a bit of a discount.

Guest

Post by Guest » 02.07.2007, 15:28

The prices for my supplies are killing me. Coal now costs 10.00 when it used to cost 8.00, I've seen .11 for power (which was the lowest price), and others.

It used to cost me about 80.00 to make 1 steel, now it's 90.00.

Guest

Post by Guest » 02.07.2007, 15:47

Invuse wrote:The prices for my supplies are killing me. Coal now costs 10.00 when it used to cost 8.00, I've seen .11 for power (which was the lowest price), and others.

It used to cost me about 80.00 to make 1 steel, now it's 90.00.

Huge Difference, Its cause its summer.

Guest

Post by Guest » 02.07.2007, 15:49

I'd say moreso because mines have been making gold instead of their usual products.

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