Anybody else shared my passion of phylosophys? like my teachre we discussed this one for a holl periode skipping math class! (scored)
The act of looking changes the object being watched to the form that lookers perceives it. "indian philosophy"
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If I every go back to school for a Ph.D. (not likely) it will be in philosophy.
A lot of people get the wrong idea about philosophy because of how they are introduced to it:
After getting that basis, do you add on a layer of memorizing the definitions of others. You'll spend a lot of time here on things like existentialism, where you have to completely understand what they mean and how they derived that conclusion before you can even think of criticizing it. At this point you can also learn things like that "indian philosophy" but it's important that it not be the first step. So that when you see
n, F-1 (F(n)) =/= n
And then from that basis you can declare it to be true, false, or indeterminate.
edit: Since you mention that it was a math class, I don't mean to necessarily impugn the way your teacher discussed it. But it has been my experience that a lot of people walk into their first philosophy class at a college or university expecting it to be a "walk", and it isn't.
A lot of people get the wrong idea about philosophy because of how they are introduced to it:
That's BS. When you actually study it, philosophy is very much like math in that there is a strict system for analysis, statements are frequently broken down into equations, and there are very much right and wrong answers.I'm going to make an abstract statement, then everyone can share how they feel about it. And there are no wrong answers, everyone's opinion is valid.
After getting that basis, do you add on a layer of memorizing the definitions of others. You'll spend a lot of time here on things like existentialism, where you have to completely understand what they mean and how they derived that conclusion before you can even think of criticizing it. At this point you can also learn things like that "indian philosophy" but it's important that it not be the first step. So that when you see
You simultaneously see it as:The act of looking changes the object being watched to the form that lookers perceives it.
n, F-1 (F(n)) =/= nAnd then from that basis you can declare it to be true, false, or indeterminate.
edit: Since you mention that it was a math class, I don't mean to necessarily impugn the way your teacher discussed it. But it has been my experience that a lot of people walk into their first philosophy class at a college or university expecting it to be a "walk", and it isn't.
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WOw, your better then my teaCHER AT THAT. I wish more people in this world were smarter, sigh. And i did not know that you could get a phpd in phylosophy. Thats awsome except that you must pay like 34000 dollars.
But listen to this one.
If I save a hundred lives even if there of the enemy, does my life equal that of a hundred lives? ''unknown''
But listen to this one.
If I save a hundred lives even if there of the enemy, does my life equal that of a hundred lives? ''unknown''
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If those lives you saved where enemy and they take 100 friendly lives then your life is worthganman wrote: But listen to this one.
If I save a hundred lives even if there of the enemy, does my life equal that of a hundred lives? ''unknown''
your life .I did a bit of study and traveling. One day while eating breakfast and writing poetry I wrote this... (I just finished reading "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance" by ???)
In order for one's environment to sustain one with love, one must sustain one's environment with one love.
A friend of mine called this a philosophy but it comes with a few assumptions. The first assumption is... Life is good.
P.S. in the quote the word "there" should be spelled in context as "THEY'RE".
Just another thought for the english speakers. There is no word in English spelled like this "spelt". I always use the word spelt but it does not mean anything. English (my first and only language) is terrible.
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They always do.A friend of mine called this a philosophy but it comes with a few assumptions.
Oh man thank you so much for bringing that up, I can't believe I forgot to mention it yesterday. I've been rushed lately. (Today too.)
Assumtions, or "premises," are an essential part of analyzing these statements. You want to be able to break them down into the structure of a mathematical proof (which is why you learn the notation and such), and that requires breaking out the assumptions.
For example, let's take this statement:
("C" is for conclusion, and again, I'm doing this quickly.)C: In order for one's environment to sustain one with love, one must sustain one's environment with one love.
Let's break out the premises included in that statement:
P1: Environments provide love
P2: Love is sustaining to the individual
P3: Love is necessary to sustain the environment.
And the idea is to lay out the premises logically such that if those premises are true, then the conclusion must be. It's a logical system of approach to any issue, and you can take whatever divisive world issue you like and apply this technique to it to get a very intelligent discussion. (I'm not about to do that though.)
Then once you've laid out the premises and derived the conclusion (using known logical/mathematical laws) the discussion shifts to analyzing each of the premises. Maybe you break each one up into it's own separate premises, or approach it with some different method like a statistical study.
But you end up with a solid basis for saying if P1 is true, and if P2 is true, and if P3 is true, then C must be true. And if one or more of the premises are false, then C may or may not be true. (Disproving it requires a stricter set of rules of inverse dependency. Think of the difference between "if ..." and "if and only if ..." and you're on the right track.)
So there you go. Guaranteed to take the fun out of anything.
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[quote="Knolls'']So there you go. Guaranteed to take the fun out of anything. [/quote]
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its all much like math
If: (1+1=2)+2+5=7)=9 (well not this)
FIrst one and seconde one are true but it does in no way guarrenty that 9 is true. in this cays yes but... Take this
When a man loves a women with much or all his heart and vice versa, this indicates that this love is unsepertable and forever lasting.
I was told any times op THIS GREAT PHYLOSOPHY ABOVE MY HEAD. but it is not true
If: (1+1=2)+2+5=7)=9 0r 10
it may or may not be true this involves mixing in unone factors, WITCH DEPENDING ON PEOPLE STILL THIS A PHYLOSOPHY OR SOME RAMDOM PHRASE
If: (1+1=2)+2+5=7)= a
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its all much like mathIf: (1+1=2)+2+5=7)=9 (well not this)
FIrst one and seconde one are true but it does in no way guarrenty that 9 is true. in this cays yes but... Take this
When a man loves a women with much or all his heart and vice versa, this indicates that this love is unsepertable and forever lasting.
I was told any times op THIS GREAT PHYLOSOPHY ABOVE MY HEAD. but it is not true
If: (1+1=2)+2+5=7)=9 0r 10
it may or may not be true this involves mixing in unone factors, WITCH DEPENDING ON PEOPLE STILL THIS A PHYLOSOPHY OR SOME RAMDOM PHRASE
If: (1+1=2)+2+5=7)= a
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Just one brain-
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Name them.
Pleas prove your theory by naming a few of these philosophers of the east. Europe has turned out a few good philosophers aswell, I am sure. Especially the Greeks.
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Come to think about it...
Phylosophys from india are probably based on religion as are many euro-contries phlosophys. Many phlosophys from europe date from much earlier, mostly classical periods. However, with the growth of the Catholic Church many ideas had to be integrated with christianity. Christianity, did however spread many ideas through europe and the christian world, only after however it had been changed to corespond with Vatican doctrites.
I have however found a brilliant quote for everyone:
"The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as to seem not worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it."
Bertrand Russell
Good, isn't it?
I have however found a brilliant quote for everyone:
"The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as to seem not worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it."
Bertrand Russell
Good, isn't it?
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