WHICH Syndicates are Controlling the MARKET?name and REASONS

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 08.06.2007, 07:57

Water takes some power to make ...

*pinches a penny*

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 08.06.2007, 10:44

I... really don't care about the inflation. I am selling at the same price my goods, because I making a good price with those price.

Only one thing is possible : Long term partnership

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » 08.06.2007, 11:21

even power price surge.. i sell my plastic and chemicals at same price!!!!!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 08.06.2007, 17:49

3rd: WHICH Syndicates/Individuals are Controlling the MARKET?Pls indicate names, fields of market and REASONS(topic start page 4) OPEN

NAME : TIB ( TOGETHER IS BETTER )

reason : has bought from me over 500k wood with in 10 days.
i believe at the price of 39 caps per piece they can easily control the supply and demand curve of the market concerning wood.

reason: Only one member of the syndicate actually uses most of the wood or all the wood eventually gets filtered down to him and thus I say TIB RULES OVER WOOD!

This syndicate dominates over private sector and general market.
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Guest · Post by **Guest** » 08.06.2007, 18:26

Noone controlls the wood prices. If the companies which make this wood wouldn't sell below a certain price, lest's say 40, then the prices wouldn't drop. Of course we all know that isn't going to happen, when a group dictates the price (even large one) there are always people who are willing to sell cheaper just to sell it faster. The same amount of wood is used if the rpices of it are high and when they are low. It's needed so it's selling. The only problem is with those who make wood and those who use it. If one group gets bigger than the other the prices go up (buying all the wood that's on the market set on the higher price) or they get low (players give lower and lower prices just to sell their product).
Trying to manipulate prices is impossible for the long time perspective. You can buy all the wood up to NPC prices, but you finaly run out of money and after a while prices go back down. Making prices lower is even harder. To be honest I do't have any reasonable ideas for it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09.06.2007, 07:11

Stop drugs ... it isn't good for you ...

NAME : TIB ( TOGETHER IS BETTER )

reason : has bought from me over 500k wood with in 10 days.
i believe at the price of 39 caps per piece they can easily control the supply and demand curve of the market concerning wood.

reason: Only one member of the syndicate actually uses most of the wood or all the wood eventually gets filtered down to him and thus I say TIB RULES OVER WOOD!

This syndicate dominates over private sector and general market.

TIB is an organization to help each other for making goods at cheap price, also for helping newbies for their development.

If the price is too expensive for you, there isn't many ways ... INVESTMENT is the keystone.

Trying to manipulate prices is impossible for the long time perspective.

I stop for this. Any wealth man can control one or several market for their own interest. With over than 457,000,000 caps of cash a top 10 alliance could be very strategy for their own.

Have ever hear about a money attack? It is very easy, the objective is only speculative. The "Franc", the "Italian Lire", the "Russian rouble" and the "Deusch mark" has suffered of it a long time ago.

There is always a reason behind a issue. Pretending that it is for the good of people should be the most important mistake.

SPB's CEO.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09.06.2007, 10:03

manipulating the prices is easy, if I post a message or a fax in which I purchase stones for 15, you will see, in half an hour the market price increases at least 5$ and I get hundreds of contracts, just wait a day or 2 to sign them, sell my own stones for 14 on the market and then I cancel all those contracts, it didn't cost me even a penny lol (just the fax maybe)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09.06.2007, 14:56

Tihi, nice i am never sending stones to you again. You cant do all this with say leather jackets tho

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09.06.2007, 16:09

Heh, the Kamikaze approach to pricing.

Catch_Or said "long time perspective." You could do that once, but not only would peopple not trust you afterwards, you'd also certainly incur the wrath of the game admins for behavior like that.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09.06.2007, 18:44

it's just an example, I wanted to show that it's very easy to manipulate the market prices if you are creative enough, it takes only 1 fax from one idiot to get the whole thing out of balance. If ppl don't trust you anymore afterwards you just change your name, problem solved and you can start over again lol

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09.06.2007, 22:59

Umm OK I'll draw the picture *pulls out crayons*

If a signifigant group of wood producers were to shift from wood to one of the other several commodities produced in a plantation they would still earn a (lesser) profit (But maybe equal if power keeps going up). If they then bought all market wood at <40 it would drive the price up. They could re-sell the purchased wood at close to a profit (maybe a small loss) and then sell a few days production at the new price. Ideally they could stockpile a day or two's production to be ready for the new price for instant profit.

The downsides would be the decreased profit during the buy-up period and the knowledge that you were also driving up the profits for everyone else not in your coalition. Additionally it would stall re-investment in your own business for the initial capital outlay (buy-up) and the un-liquidated stock (warehoused and waiting for the artificial inflation)

Repeated this process could result in a permanent rise in contract prices. I guess a form of eco-terrorism *giggles maniacally at own pun* Overall though wood like power is a key commodity for the market so this sort of re-pricing (like what we are seeing in power) puts overall stresses on the market as a whole.

I don't have any math to back this up. Just a bit of personal experience (local not global markets). Maybe we can get Knolls or Capi to do a spreadsheet. I'm guessing the inflation cost curve would involve calculus. Like that problem in every textbook with a pool draining or a balloon inflating at a fixed rate and trying to figure the circumferance ROC? I'mm too lazy and tired...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09.06.2007, 23:16

Yes the market is a cone-shaped bin filled with water. A valve at the top loads up 2 L / minute, while a valve at the bottom releases water at a rate proportional to the square of the height of the water in the bin at the time. If the system reaches equilibrium with the water level at half the height of the bin, how much wood would a woodchuck chuck at market equilibrium?

As fun as it is to be silly, I think your suggestion implies a closed system, which the market is not. You can indeed do what you say for a while, and there's nothing even wrong about it. But eventually someone will see this and enter into the market with their own wood - making more and more you have to buy up to keep the price high. That's the beauty of competitoin.

I've seen it happen with contest products, and usually the person gets burned. You can try it with wood, and I definitely agree it would work in the short term. But in the long run I think you're absorbing way too much risk for the possible reward.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10.06.2007, 01:20

Wow!, Market is selling at 19c I am not sure if its a real company cause it got mutiple offers but.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 10.06.2007, 21:09

Wood is up to 40. Did somoene take me seriously? I said it was theoretically possible I did not say it was provably profitable.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 13.07.2007, 07:28

yeah I think TIB-FT is controlling the market

the big ones buy oil for 35c each putting the price rise for 10c over the last 2 weeks!!