Coin Prices :@

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Coin Prices :@

Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 15:48

Yes, coin prices. We all know how much topics we have read about them. We know how high prices went from 2007-2011, from 300,000 per coin to 700,000,000 per coin. Isn't there a solution? Why must companies pay for coins 700 million each, when they can put that money into other uses! Coins prices have become stricly higher than a small company's budget or other companys' budget. Yet, I do not say that coin prices should be below 100 million, but what I mean is that they should be affordable, for example, a price of 250 million per coin . Some of you claim the solution that companies should not buy coins or wait until they become a big company. Yet, how would you feel to look at others which are pleased enjoying a privelege you do not have. Then, what is it you say the solution is? One word, REBELLION! :evil: We have to put a stop to this. Well, the question is, why do we have to? The answer is simple as this, the Kapilands Team understand this problem very well I believe, yet, the solution requires a force outside the kapilands team, a force which cannot be stopped and cause trouble to the kapilands team(well, atleast not too much trouble ;) ). Why must we be taken advantage of?! Why must we let others benefit highly from us while we are struggling?! BUT How are we supposed to 'Rebell'? Well, here are the steps as follows:

1) Boycott coin sellers demanding high prices, and refuse any kind of offer until prices have been settled. This will result to a market crash, causing coin prices to drop as coin sellers are unable to sell, therefore, have to lower prices if they want to make profit out of coins.

2) Raise awareness of our actions by spreading it through faxes, running our own forum, our own newspaper tackling this topic, and similar methods.

3) Start buying coins at low prices.

4) Convince coin sellers to drop their prices and join our side.




Well, this is it. Also, for moderators, soem of you might feel that this shouldn't be in the 'General Stuff' forum, and much more suitable for the 'Trade Syndicate and Groups' forum. However, this is topic to be discussed, and still this is not in action.



Those who approve of my point of view please place this sign when you post a reply ' :idea: ' . Thank you for reading my topic, and I hope I have convinced many of this issue :D.


To add to that, I am more experienced in realm 1, as I do not play realm 2. I believe this should be mostly for realm 1, but if prices are this high in realm 2, then this should be applied in realm 2 as applied in realm 1.

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Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 15:55

Whilst everyone is busy rebeling how are they going to keep their premium buildings from becoming locked?

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Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 15:58

Well, if we fight this battle once and have some losses, then we will have lots of time with premium buildings(in other words, we face no premium for only one month but lwoer prices, then we benefit a lot by both premium and low coin prices).

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Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 16:00

If you have contracts to sign etc and you can't use your buildings to produce as they are locked, how are you going to earn caps to buy the cheaper coins?

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Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 16:07

NYK, that is my point, I am not saying we will achieve this by no costs at all or pain, and I also not saying that we should lower coin prices by one click. For example, we can buy coins this week for 650 million, then 600 million the next week, then 550 million the next week...etc until we settle coin prices to what we feel is 'affordable'. Moreover, I am sure 60 buildings( no premium) are enough to make enough caps to sign contracts and buy coins. For example, you make 500 million a day(which I believe is the average of companies in kapilands). You can make caps over two days, then buy 1 coin each two days. You would have a surplus of money which would be enough for your costs and purchases, and be helping settle coin prices.

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Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 16:11

I have also wondered about this issue before...

coins is a free market "product" and has no limit but what big companies are willing to pay for them...

maybe the coins can be given a ceiling price... maybe 500 million and let the market control movement below that price..

I personally don't buy coins ingame I always sell them... the high prices does give me an advantage that I will admit...

It will be interesting to see where the price will hit a ceiling...

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Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 16:17

Your suggestion of a 'ceiling price' is acceptable, yet, I think that the kapilands team will be unable to carry this out as the source of income for the upjers company is the buying of coins through real money. Yet, we can settle a price which we ingame players can maintain. To add to that, you have demonstrated a great example of how much companies are benefitting from the high coins prices and I aprreciate that :).

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Post by Guest » 14.07.2011, 23:11

COTAL wrote: Moreover, I am sure 60 buildings( no premium) are enough to make enough caps to sign contracts and buy coins. For example, you make 500 million a day(which I believe is the average of companies in kapilands). You can make caps over two days, then buy 1 coin each two days. You would have a surplus of money which would be enough for your costs and purchases, and be helping settle coin prices.
Your not getting my point, if you already have premium and you stop buying coins until the prices drop there's nothing to say you will have 60 buildings, take for example here, if you are down to 10 buildings possibly less how are you going to buy your coins if you can't afford them now?

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Post by Guest » 15.07.2011, 18:54

Not sure what the big deal if you want coin prices to truly come down everyone would need to buy their coins from upjers for real money other wise the coins will remain high because of the demand for them. Truly I have my subscription paid for the next 2 years. I occasionally buy coins here and their for status symbols or to sell to buy something for my account that I want. The price of coins for real cash are not that unreasonable.

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Post by Guest » 15.07.2011, 19:36

NYK wrote:
COTAL wrote: Moreover, I am sure 60 buildings( no premium) are enough to make enough caps to sign contracts and buy coins. For example, you make 500 million a day(which I believe is the average of companies in kapilands). You can make caps over two days, then buy 1 coin each two days. You would have a surplus of money which would be enough for your costs and purchases, and be helping settle coin prices.
Your not getting my point, if you already have premium and you stop buying coins until the prices drop there's nothing to say you will have 60 buildings, take for example here, if you are down to 10 buildings possibly less how are you going to buy your coins if you can't afford them now?
NYK, you are right about this point. Yet, the solution is simple. As I stated before, we will be buying coins by lowering them week by week or step by step. Now, if this is successful, we will not have lack of coins, and might even have premium membership. However, if this fails, the main reason is that most people will back out and buy coins for the current prices. We need most companies to achieve this. Moreover, perhaps we can also convince coin sellers to join our side, where they can sell coins for a price we can settle.

psychozen, your case is not similar to others. Some people prefer to buy coins with caps. For example, I myself, purchase coins with caps. I make 2 billion a day, so coin prices are not a major issue for mem, however I do feel that coin prices are over priced. Yet, others who purchase coins with caps like me might find coin purchasing very costing. Lets say a company makes 50 million a day. It has reached its building limit of 60 buildings and needs to build more buildings. It prefers to buy coins with caps and cannot afford them. To add to that, you are saying that we need to buy coins with real money to lower their price since they are highly demanded. This is actually unneccasry as if there are no buyers, to whom are they going to sell their coins and make profit? You are also saying that this is not a big of an issue. Well, when you look at it that coin prices have gone from 300,000 to 700 million each, you tell me. They are very unreasonable, and we would not be surprised if they went from 700 million to 30 billion each after quite some time.

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Post by Guest » 19.07.2011, 07:07

I stopped looking for coins over a year ago. They are not worth the money people are demanding.

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Post by Guest » 20.07.2011, 12:00

Well you do have a point armymen :).


And Andro, you are a perfect example to show others how coins are not worth these high prices.

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Post by Guest » 20.07.2011, 16:09

The way to get down the price for coins is simple, I think:
Don't post on the coins trade forum section any [BUY] offer, or post a price that is 10-25% lower, then [SELL] offers.

And you don't need any rebellion.

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Post by Guest » 20.07.2011, 19:08

"i stopped looking for them" is not a 'perfect example' for a campaign, lol.
if real life campaigns were like that... ouch. :P

Anyways:
I've always bought my coins with real-life money and I'd sell a few when I was running out of cash after starting expansions and such, just to get back to the amount of money that I already had.
I haven't sold a coin in-game since it was about 150mil I think. (R2)

they're doubled in price now, and I haven't been selling them since their price increase.
For me, (a 'sellers' point of view) it's not even fun to get rich that easily, so I probably won't sell a coin unless they become cheaper again.
I like to become a larger company through actual playing, not by selling a few coins to get several billions of caps added to my bank account.
Realm 1 has always been crazy with their prices, 700 mil is just insane, I don't blame you guys for wanting that to go down. :shock:

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Post by Guest » 21.07.2011, 07:17

VerConMat Industries BV wrote:"i stopped looking for them" is not a 'perfect example' for a campaign, lol.
if real life campaigns were like that... ouch. :P
I don't get your comment on this.
If you're not happy with something, ingame or IRL, you most likely boycot whatever it is (I have tons of examples not suitable for this forum). If enough people do this, the targets must ask themselves what they are doing wrong and find a way to change it.

Just my opinion.

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