Contests should pay fair prices for items

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 14:15

Instead of 1 or 2 kapis, contests should pay something like the low market price for items, as judged by an administrator. This would ensure enthusiastic participation by Score competitors and would put more money into the game.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 15:00

for a small company they would lose a lot of money just to try to get 1 cert.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 15:51

Why should small companies lose out money to get a cert, if its was done that way? If they get a cert, they are geting double money: Once by the contest for the goods, and the second time, when they sell the certs...

I just had it once that my production price was less than what was paid by contest for the goods: Bread Q7 production price (in my warehouse): 1,37 got 2 from the contest... And a cert as well (no it was not on R1 or 2 here)...

Dopamin

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 15:55

babyray wrote:for a small company they would lose a lot of money just to try to get 1 cert.

Small companies supply rather than play the contest. Demand for small companies' product will be greater, since contest players get some money back, letting them submit more product for a given investment of kapis.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 16:03

Straw,

sorry but I have to disagree here...

I learned elsewhere I rather put my ice creams profitable through my shops or send em in myself instead of selling them for less than a certain price as a contest product. Well I was putting my chocolate ice creams in and won a cert. The cert sold there for a lot more than I had been paid for the ice creams... Not to talk about being lucky to have a stacked warehouse full of raw materials then so it was FAR more, than what I invested...

Small companies might not sell their goods that easy to bigger companies once they find out the value of the certs for other players... Especially, when the contest pays more than 1 or 2 Caps...

Dopamin

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 17:14

contests are biased in favour of big companies i know but smaller companies do very well out of them by supplying products to the bigger companies. If you raised the price payed they would go in themselves not make as much money with no guarantee of a big payout as well as the big players would not be able to source as much products as they used.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 18:13

kingrewt wrote:contests are biased in favour of big companies i know but smaller companies do very well out of them by supplying products to the bigger companies. If you raised the price payed they would go in themselves not make as much money with no guarantee of a big payout as well as the big players would not be able to source as much products as they used.

If the price that the contest company buys the products was raised then the cost of the product would raise a greater amount still.

When you get 1 cap from "contest" you might buy at 1,000 caps

When you get 500 caps from "contest" you might buy at 2,500 caps.

As less guys will be selling them if they only loose a few caps by enterting the contest. So the big guys will try to drag the contest back in their favour and pay more. Then the smallers guys will continue selling for 2,500caps.

But then people will start undercutting each other if larger amounts of money come into play.

Eg you can earn 450caps per thing you sell to a player when the contest pays 1 cap each.

OR

You can earn 1950caps per thing you sell when the contest buys at 500 caps each.

in the second example maybe 5times more people would make the contest product pushing the selling price down by a factor of 5 possibly and making contests harder and more confusing for newbies.

Just keep it as it is!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 18:29

You are forgetting one thing here I think:

Every player can decide quite well, what he wants to do with his goods (well, I assume this, because I can decide quite well what I am doing with it). Send em in or sell em or sell em with the shops...

So, any higher price of the contest, will put the buyers under pressure to pay more - simple as that... So small companies can decide whether to sell their goods at the offered price or send em in themselves...

Thats what Ive been doing for some time on different servers quite successfully: I didnt like the offered price, so I either send it in myself (if I have the cance for a cc no matter how much money I COULD have been making by selling it underpriced) or sell the goods through my shops...

Dopamin

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 19:23

I disagree with this subject.
For me,you either make money selling the product to others,or take the gamble.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 03.10.2009, 20:10

Wheres the gamble? This is what I experienced:

I can produce something for example chocolate ice creams Q4. A warehouse stacked FULL of cocoa and milk at a price nobody here would believe me in the right Q. Productionprice of the ice creams at about 20 Caps. Still profitable to go through my shops. When chocolate ice cream was called out contest product the market prices for milk and cocoa went topsy turvey - same as here... Milk shot up to 200 cocoa as well - calculate it yourself what others had as production prices. I decided not to sell any ice creams under a certain price - I had rather sold it in my shops (less profit for me, but these ice creams will not help anybody to get a medal or certificate). Found a buyer first, he left the contest, had an offer of a scrooge which I rejected found anoher buyer then but my last 25k did sell at 4k on the market, but nobody wanted the last 15k last minute at 3.5k. So i send it in myself and it was well enough for a cert. This cert I sold a few weeks later at 250mil.

I cannot find a gamble, really... Earned enough there these days to triple my FA within a few weeks...

Dopamin

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 04.10.2009, 03:04

1. I don't like the idea.
2. The last time people complained about the price being so low, 2c, they droped the price to 1c. Stop complaining before they drop it even lower.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 04.10.2009, 03:32

Dopamin wrote:Wheres the gamble? This is what I experienced

I cannot find a gamble, really... Earned enough there these days to triple my FA within a few weeks...

Dopamin

U gamble every time you enter a contest because you "USE" money to try and "GET" money or score

Which is known to normal people as GAMBLING, you gamble on the contest because it is not controlled by u everyone has the opportunity to knock you off. If your last 15k would have been 101st place you wouldnt have got jack didly squat, but since you got a CC. You dont think you have gambled, well to bad you did.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 04.10.2009, 07:55

e.g tables q1.

you send in for 300 caps.

i doubt the price of the goods on the market would go up by 300 caps.(maybe 250 cap)

meaning the price of contest cert goes up because it has been more costly to buy goods. because you'd loose 49caps compared to sending it in for one cap.

and also the market price would go up making newbies more money when they sell

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 04.10.2009, 10:21

it sounds so simple to me: lower the amount of money one has to sacrifice, and the CC price will also go down. all in all, you havent made any change

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 04.10.2009, 10:36

GREED inc. wrote:it sounds so simple to me: lower the amount of money one has to sacrifice, and the CC price will also go down. all in all, you havent made any change

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