Fix inconsistant number formats?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 01.09.2009, 03:31

In the US, we use a comma to mark the thousands place and a period to mark where the decimal/fractional/cents portion of the number begins. In Europe (and probably elsewhere) they do it the opposite way. I don't mind if Kapilands does it the European way, but it's a bit confusing and disorienting when numbers are written both ways in different places. For example, where it shows my company information and in the warehouse American notation is used, but on the market page it's all in the European format. In the descriptions of the products in the factories, the cost per unit is in European format, while the amount of needed materials and per hour numbers are in American format. I see no option in my profile settings to change the way numbers are displayed. Is this maybe because the game detected my American IP and tried to translate the numbers into the American format but missed some? This problem doesn't happen in Kapi Regnum - all the numbers are in American format and the format is settable in the profile.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 01.09.2009, 03:46

ive always found this annoying too, i doubt they'll change it though.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 18.09.2009, 17:50

It's not devided as Europe vs US. I spoke to a friend about this today and she, being a brit, use the comma for 1000 etc. I personally think this is backwards. I live in Sweden and to us it's normal to use 1.000.000 when writing millions. Anything else is just highly irritating.
Like pounds, versus metric system. Farenheit vs Celsius.

If I were to decide we would all use the Swedish version; Metric system, Celsius, pullstops in numbers.

I agree that Upjers should be consistant though, and make sure they give an explanation to whichever way of writing they choose.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 18.09.2009, 21:15

Andro wrote:If I were to decide we would all use the Swedish version; Metric system, Celsius, pullstops in numbers.

A decimal *point*, not a decimal comma, separates units from tenths. That leaves commas to mark every third power.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.09.2009, 07:09

this is a valid point... simplicity and uniformity is important when working with numbers..

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.09.2009, 10:06

Straw Man wrote:
Andro wrote:If I were to decide we would all use the Swedish version; Metric system, Celsius, pullstops in numbers.
A decimal *point*, not a decimal comma, separates units from tenths. That leaves commas to mark every third power.

Excuse me for not having English as first language and knowing the difference between, decimal point, decimal comma or a regular comma. It is still backwards and I would prefer full-stops, dots, whatever you want to call them to make it easier to read numbers in millions.

Sidenote: I never mentioned "decimal comma" in that quote.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.09.2009, 10:47

Andro wrote:Sidenote: I never mentioned "decimal comma" in that quote.

Yeah, there's no such thing as "decimal comma". My point is that "decimal point" is the term for the symbol that divides units from tenths, and "point" can only refer to a period, not a comma.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.09.2009, 17:00

Most software using numbers use the "decimal point" to divide tenths from units. It's not so much an issue of whether you are used to it or not, its more about a universally accepted format.

A good number of people like to use Excel to calculate profits etc. And using a decimal point in the wrong place does not help in the least.

Also, all programming languages use the dcimal point to separate units and tenths, so I do not really understand why the programmers of this game would have an issue with using the same kind of format in both places.

The best solution (if you really want to cry) is to use the ENGLISH format when people play in the ENGLISH LANGUAGE. If people choose to play in other languages which like the comma, then the format can change for them.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.09.2009, 18:18

nikhilm92 wrote:A good number of people like to use Excel to calculate profits etc. And using a decimal point in the wrong place does not help in the least.

Excel and others spreadsheets use the format defined on the regional settings of your operating system. So if you set on regional settings the "," as your decimal separator and "." as third number separator, excel will use "," as decimal separator and "." as third number separator, but if you set on regional settings the "." as your decimal separator and "," as third number separator, excel will adapt to use "." as your decimal separator and "," as third number separator. The majority of the people don't know that, but those definitions are set when you choose the country where you are from when you first start a new PC or when you reinstall the operating system.

About the format of the numbers that Kapi use, well I don't bother about the format, cause kapi accepts both, "." and "," as decimal point, but I agree that at least Upjjers should be consistent on choosing one format.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.09.2009, 19:23

SiberianTiger wrote:So if you set on regional settings the "," as your decimal separator and "." as third number separator, excel will use "," as decimal separator and "." as third number separator, but if you set on regional settings the "." as your decimal separator and "," as third number separator, excel will adapt to use "." as your decimal separator and "," as third number separator.

And now I want to hear you say this 10 times as fast as you can...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.09.2009, 22:09

sally wrote:And now I want to hear you say this 10 times as fast as you can...

LOL

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.09.2009, 16:00

do we need to signify each thousand ...?

it could just be done so there only comma or fullstop was the dividor of units and tenths.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.09.2009, 22:35

euanmead12 wrote:do we need to signify each thousand ...?

Yes, so that, for instance, you can verify that you offered a building for 100M, instead of 10M, without having to count 8 adjacent zeros.