What goods are profitable for retailing.

[Guest]

you can't just compare a 1 year old company and its profits to a new company.

A new company should start by building raw materials buildings and then expanding them when all slots are full. With research they should rebalance towards factories.

The only reason my joineries make any profit at all is because I bought a tech RC and researched wardrobes to 56 and counting. At Q0, wardrobes are only worth about the 2150 cost. That's why newbies should start with raw materials. But it's easy to research finished goods to Q20 or Q30, enabling you to make them profitably at Q5 or Q10. That's stage 2 in player evolution. Stage 3 is all your buildings are big, so you rebalance to at least 40% shops.

Whats with the factories Fetish??

But whatever.
I managed to build a shop-account from scratch to 1B in no-time, but you keep telling me i did wrong
Don't you think you are being a bit silly with that?

You buy a tech RC and start researching to make a profit, i never needed to waste slots at tech buildings and money on research to make a profit.
You claim you need to build a shop and expand it to 8000m, but i just build them and started selling/expanding slowly.
Imagine the amount of stones i should have stockpiled to build those stores to 8000m from 20m.
8000m x 200 sones x 40 buildings (yeah, i build them when i first used coins for premium) = 64M stones..
And how about the 32M steel.
Thats some stockpile for a small company like mine back then.
Why waste my time and money waiting for me to get the cash to do the thing you say is righ when i can just build/expand 40 stores slowly??
Everytime you get the cash to build 1 store i just expand all 40 stores 200m which is just as expensive.
I however can also choose to expand 100m when i have less resourses/cash, ergo...i'm more flexible...


But hey, it was a terrible strat cuz you say so.
I however think getting a company up that fast proves it is possible.


A good businessman doesn't have a fixed strat, a good businessman adapts to oppurtunities and problems to enable him to make a profit where others make a loss.



I'm sure you once again manage to post a huge response without actually answering the important questions.
Like, why the hell would you advise a small company to buy 2000m Factories at 120M each??
Are you selling some and you just try to get nOObs to buy them at a rediculous price so you make some extra profit??

[Guest]

OK People, I think we are getting a little off topic here.

I am sure Goldeneye will be along soon and close this thread.

The original question was about retailing, It appears that Gas stations are profitable.....although IMO limited to only one product

furniture stores and textile stores have flexibilty and can both make a profit.....Both have products available on the market at low enough cost to make a good profit

Grocery can also make a profit but as was said previously not as high as some other retail outlets.

obviously there is a number of others and they all can make a profit, looking quickly at products for sale on the market and supply/demand information

Regards
Ex

[Guest]

OK People, I think we are getting a little off topic here.

I am sure Goldeneye will be along soon and close this thread.

The original question was about retailing, It appears that Gas stations are profitable.....although IMO limited to only one product

furniture stores and textile stores have flexibilty and can both make a profit.....Both have products available on the market at low enough cost to make a good profit

Grocery can also make a profit but as was said previously not as high as some other retail outlets.

obviously there is a number of others and they all can make a profit, looking quickly at products for sale on the market and supply/demand information

Regards
Ex

Every store can make a profit ofcourse.
The benefit of the store owner is him being able to select what to buy and how fast to sell it.
When supply is low and expensive you just raise your price and wait for the supply to catch up again to drop the price.

Only some products are completely useless to sell, but they usually only get sold in special buildings which makes them to expensive for stores.
Yet, every store has a product that can make a profit.


Kapi is just like real life, the shop owners always make a profit and producers only make a profit when they produce the righ product.

[Guest]

I managed to build a shop-account from scratch to 1B in no-time, but you keep telling me i did wrong

As a matter of KL policy, there's no record of how quickly anyone develops, or how they do it.

Like, why the hell would you advise a small company to buy 2000m Factories at 120M each?

In a recent post, I said I built and expanded to 1520m buildings before I started buying buildings. Some guys sell coins to get money early and they want to buy buildings without anyone telling them to.

[Guest]

furniture stores and textile stores have flexibilty and can both make a profit.....Both have products available on the market at low enough cost to make a good profit

I don't know about textile stores, so I won't comment. However, my view of furniture stores is that they only sell wardrobes, just like gas stations only sell gas. I tried other furniture and it was much less profitable than wardrobes.

Furthermore, you need suppliers of wardrobes if you have big furniture stores. There aren't nearly enough wardrobes on the market and you don't want to have a warehouse full of many different Q's.

[Guest]

well I have looked at the market, for furniture which i know a little about ( 2572 sqm)there is tables on the market now at

105 ADAMOCO 2 429,00 45.045,00 buy

now as a start retailer thats a Q2 product that will sell for a very respectable profit.

Yes we all know that wardrobes are perhaps the MOST profitable however there is good profits to be made in beds,tables and chairs

and as a new player which was where the thread was started, you can only fit a few items in your store,

so buy from the market what you need on a 24 hour basis for retail on half full shelves.

You dont need large stocks sat in your warehouse earning you no money.

As for textiles i have 6000 sqm of retail space, and yes again leather jackets are most profitable, but again good profits can be made...

Pullovers anyone:
100 Summa UK 0 180,00 18.000,00 buy

Stats data: Pullovers 7.897 285,22

[Guest]

well I have looked at the market, for furniture which i know a little about ( 2572 sqm)

I don't want to nag, but wait until you have a few 12000m furniture stores, you won't be able to stock them from the market.

[Guest]

furniture stores and textile stores have flexibilty and can both make a profit.....Both have products available on the market at low enough cost to make a good profit

I don't know about textile stores, so I won't comment. However, my view of furniture stores is that they only sell wardrobes, just like gas stations only sell gas. I tried other furniture and it was much less profitable than wardrobes.

Furthermore, you need suppliers of wardrobes if you have big furniture stores. There aren't nearly enough wardrobes on the market and you don't want to have a warehouse full of many different Q's.

Dude, are you just trolling or are you really that ignorant????


The guy is talking about making a profit, not making the best profit.
Also, if you say Tables don't make a profit i suggest you go have a chat with CMB.
I consider him to be the number 1 best company in the game and they buy Tables...
But allright, you are a genius and you claim they aren't any good, so i bet CMB is just a nOOb that doesn't have a clue about the game.....


Ah, well...
Luckily i'm bored so i don't mind wasting my time right now anyway

[Guest]

I managed to build a shop-account from scratch to 1B in no-time, but you keep telling me i did wrong

As a matter of KL policy, there's no record of how quickly anyone develops, or how they do it.

And you are pointing out what with this response???

Like, why the hell would you advise a small company to buy 2000m Factories at 120M each?

In a recent post, I said I built and expanded to 1520m buildings before I started buying buildings. Some guys sell coins to get money early and they want to buy buildings without anyone telling them to.

So you didn't buy 2000m factories as a small company, but you advise others to buy 2000m factories.....

Dude, are you on drugs???

[Guest]

the last 2 pages are getting boring by now...

Thread served its purpose, unless we can get back to a normal discussion in here...

[Guest]

the last 2 pages are getting boring by now... :?

Thread served its purpose, unless we can get back to a normal discussion in here...

The original poster asked:

"What type of goods are profitable to buy off players/the market and then sell in a store?

I think I read that Gas can be profitable to buy and then sell in a Gas Station, are there other products that can make a profit this way?"

It doesn't take long to say gas and wardrobes, but it begs the question of who should be selling them (what size player), which has been kicked around for a while.

[Guest]

Like, why the hell would you advise a small company to buy 2000m Factories at 120M each?

In a recent post, I said I built and expanded to 1520m buildings before I started buying buildings. Some guys sell coins to get money early and they want to buy buildings without anyone telling them to.

So you didn't buy 2000m factories as a small company, but you advise others to buy 2000m factories.....

I didn't buy any buildings until I had about 20 each 720m and 1520m buildings, 6 RC's and 14 free slots. I had some gas research which made it useful for me to buy factories for something like 50-70k per m.

But I had been using the free slots for contests. I always advise new players to build in their free slots and then expand their own buildings. When they're big enough, they can buy buildings, just like I did. They can get big early by selling coins.
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An exchange on page 3 of this thread was:

how do you get 8000m shops when you can't build small ones cuz they don't make a profit?

Build or buy a small one and expand it straight to 8000m or 12000m. Or expand it to 2000m or 4000m and play with it for a while. The point is that 2000m is the sweet spot for factories and joineries. You can buy them for 100-120M and they make 3-4M daily profit with Q60 gas or wardrobes research. Big shops are more profitable than big factories, though, and don't require research.
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Saying about 2000m factories, "You can buy them for 100-120M", doesn't amount to recommending their purchase by small players. Where did that idea ever come from?

[Guest]

I am that "original poster".


I don't mind you guys having a whole size discussion in here, as it does fit the original topic.
but keep it decent, don't just throw insults at eachother to get your point across.

it's both 'unprofessional' (maybe a strange choice of words in a game forum, but whatever) and will result in people taking you less serious, the exact opposite of what you're trying to accomplish.

[Guest]

Saying about 2000m factories, "You can buy them for 100-120M", doesn't amount to recommending their purchase by small players. Where did that idea ever come from?

To me it does, why otherwise write about buying them??

I wouldn't write it like you do.
If anything i would write: 2000m factories at 120M are to expensive for small companies, build them and sell them, but never buy them!!

I understand a top company could pay 120M when he owns high Q gas research, but a recently started company won't have the research no mater whate.
He wouldn't be able to make the 4M/day profit needed to earn the surplus paid on the 120M.
Building a 2000m factory would cost around 35M for a small company.
Therefor he would be paying a 80M bonus on a building build in 25+ days.

To make the 4M, you would need Research.
And ofcourse, a company changing production or starting the game won't have that research.
Therefor, only people who are allready producing it will be able to buy those factories.
However, why would someone who is making that much cash buy such small building when he could make more/hour in larger factories?
Therefor, 120K for a 2000m factory is a waste of cash.

I know people do pay that cash, but i just laugh and sell them my buildings

I am that "original poster".


I don't mind you guys having a whole size discussion in here, as it does fit the original topic.
but keep it decent, don't just throw insults at eachother to get your point across.

it's both 'unprofessional' (maybe a strange choice of words in a game forum, but whatever) and will result in people taking you less serious, the exact opposite of what you're trying to accomplish.

I don't want people to take me serious, why would i care about that in a game??

If people refuse to listen to the advise a provide, just don't....
If people want to oppose my point, make sure you use the right facts, cuz if you don't i'll respond untill you manage to prove your point.


This is a game
games are supposed to prevent boredom
this forum is part of the game
ergo, this forum is supposed to prevent boredom

Yummy


And like Goldeneye wrote in another thread, if you want real life, shut down the computer and go outside or whatever

[Guest]

This is a game
games are supposed to prevent boredom
this forum is part of the game
ergo, this forum is supposed to prevent boredom

Yummy


And like Goldeneye wrote in another thread, if you want real life, shut down the computer and go outside or whatever

i couldnt agree more