kingrewt wrote:Jan is right 2 wrongs don't make a right, so lets get a big felt tip and divide the holy lands into 2 and each stays on there half
In the beginning it was that way... few hours after the UN desided Israel to be, the started a war and we won and conquered bigger area In the next folowing wars we conquered even more, and even gave them back some land.
kingrewt wrote:serious now, the people on the boat attacked the Israelis before they opened fire and only attacked in self defense. Then the Palestinians complain that they were shot at and really it is there own stupid fault. Can anyone recall how many people died in it, different websites have different figures.
The attackers are being interegated, and it seems that around 100 people on the boat (the one's that attacked) are part of the jihad (like el kaida).
How can the people on the boats be seen as the attackers?
They were sailing to their destination and boarded by armed commandos, the Israelis can't possibly be seen as acting in self defence they caused the problem, they boarded the ships, if they hadn't boarded the ships the crew wouldn't of had to act against them, they were in international waters the Israelis had no to right to board the ships.
No doubt under interogation there will be countless terrorists found among the crew, depends how much people can take.
NYK wrote:How can the people on the boats be seen as the attackers?
They were sailing to their destination and boarded by armed commandos, the Israelis can't possibly be seen as acting in self defence they caused the problem, they boarded the ships, if they hadn't boarded the ships the crew wouldn't of had to act against them, they were in international waters the Israelis had no to right to board the ships.
No doubt under interogation there will be countless terrorists found among the crew, depends how much people can take.
well the Israelis did give at least 2 warnings that if they did continue they would half to use force So it has to be the sailors asking for trouble. Latest news says that the cargo ships didn't meet international laws on ship safety and not filled out the proper paperwork to be a humanitarian group, so it was an illegal convoy
NYK wrote:How can the people on the boats be seen as the attackers?
They were sailing to their destination and boarded by armed commandos, the Israelis can't possibly be seen as acting in self defence they caused the problem, they boarded the ships, if they hadn't boarded the ships the crew wouldn't of had to act against them, they were in international waters the Israelis had no to right to board the ships.
No doubt under interogation there will be countless terrorists found among the crew, depends how much people can take.
didn't meet international laws on ship safety and not filled out the proper paperwork to be a humanitarian group, so it was an illegal convoy
Ok, so it was an illegal convoy. But..there's a but...still I believe there's no reason to gun down a bunch of people, saying they are [potential] terrorists. It's just like killing illegal emigrants after getting them out of the truck they've boarded to try to pass the border unseen and unheared by the customs officers, even though they did nothing for you to consider them a threat.
it's a POTENTIAL threat to the country..it might be guns against them in it..its not a weird action, just not a very smart 1, making a shoot-out instead of the S&D
jan1666 wrote:it's a POTENTIAL threat to the country..it might be guns against them in it..its not a weird action, just not a very smart 1, making a shoot-out instead of the S&D
Haven't said it's weird to be careful, but it has to be something much more solid to be considered as a good reason to attack a convoy.
Well, If there will be a convy sent to Iraq while there are us troops inside, I'm sure they will do everything in their power to check that it really is aid and not weapons and bombs
In the next folowing wars we conquered even more, and even gave them back some land.
