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Never did business actually, others always had better prices, esp. for wood. Steel margin is extremely small, still, some offer(ed) 133,3.

That's my idea. Still, if people are happy, why not. The market is open. People can send ads to ask for others to buy stuff for a price. Sure, it takes time. If you have no time, you take a less competitive price. If you have more time, you look for better prices.

That's the way life goes: In the city center of a big city usually goods are more expensive than in the area just outside the center. If you want to save money, you'll have to invest some time.

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Lets take wardrobes for example:
20 woods @ 45 = 900 caps
5 steel @ 132 = 660 caps
600 power @ 0.08 = 48 caps
production cost = 18 caps
TOTAL = 1.626 caps
and how much do you pay to the people for that? only 1.475!!! Is this fair and better???

someone correct me if i'm wrong but if you produce your own inputs then the price would be closer to
20 wood @ 12 -- 240 caps
5 steel @ 27 -- 135 caps
600 power @ .03 -- 18 caps
prod -- 18 caps

TOTAL -- 410 ish caps - profit of 1000 ish caps. not bad i'd say.

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Lets take wardrobes for example:
20 woods @ 45 = 900 caps
5 steel @ 132 = 660 caps
600 power @ 0.08 = 48 caps
production cost = 18 caps
TOTAL = 1.626 caps
and how much do you pay to the people for that? only 1.475!!! Is this fair and better???

someone correct me if i'm wrong but if you produce your own inputs then the price would be closer to
20 wood @ 12 -- 240 caps
5 steel @ 27 -- 135 caps
600 power @ .03 -- 18 caps
prod -- 18 caps

TOTAL -- 410 ish caps - profit of 1000 ish caps. not bad i'd say.

Your forgetting to add in your own profits. Each product is worth the market value even if you make it.

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That's my idea. Still, if people are happy, why not. The market is open. People can send ads to ask for others to buy stuff for a price. Sure, it takes time. If you have no time, you take a less competitive price. If you have more time, you look for better prices.

yup.. you got a point.
we can't blame CMB for it's cheaper price if we don't have time to seek for better price.
i myself IGM almost all top 20 rank players on my first 14 days just to get better deal for my 'small amount product'.

i would like to say thank you very much to 'bells shop' and 'da weed farm' for support me till this day and thank you again because both of you have been my regular customer since i'm at merchant level. ^^

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i expect so but if you are not making a profit you wouldnt buy /sell it.

i expect each player has prices that they are willing to pay for goods (although during periods of lean supply then a premium may be expected to get your goods - especially when the contest affects an area your dealing with...it has taken nearly 2 weeks for the power prices to return to pre-gold contest prices...and the oil contest has kept water prices inflated).

by the way does putting multiple sell items on the market sell more quick than consolidating the entries. i would think it would be easier to put 1 X 2,000,000 power entry in that 10 X 200,000 power entries for example.

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Why is this such a problem? He has a company and in Kapilands you can do whatever you want with your company. I don't think he is exploiting anyone more than what CMB and other companies are exploiting. And i dont blame CMB for exploiting people with his wardrobes business because that is a real economy.

In a FREE market everyone is aloud to do whatever they want. So let him be FREE. It's interesting what the water will do to kapilands. i think it "spices" up the game more like someone already down the line mentioned.

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That's my idea. Still, if people are happy, why not. The market is open. People can send ads to ask for others to buy stuff for a price. Sure, it takes time. If you have no time, you take a less competitive price. If you have more time, you look for better prices.

yup.. you got a point.
we can't blame CMB for it's cheaper price if we don't have time to seek for better price.
^^

but he blamed me when i wanted to buy water for 0.08 when the market was 0.09.. he threatened people that their accounts will be deleted if they send water to me with that price.. i believe this is a free market and everybody is wise enough when deciding to whom or in what price they are selling..

my point from the very beginning and again! why it is correct when he is doing and why it is not correct when i am doing???? i guess i made my point.. he called me a cheater and threatened people that their account will be deleted when they do business with me.. if people still want to sell their wardrobes to him for that price.. i am cool with it.. i just remind them with whom they are doing business.

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Why is this such a problem? He has a company and in Kapilands you can do whatever you want with your company. I don't think he is exploiting anyone more than what CMB and other companies are exploiting. And i dont blame CMB for exploiting people with his wardrobes business because that is a real economy.

In a FREE market everyone is aloud to do whatever they want. So let him be FREE. It's interesting what the water will do to kapilands. i think it "spices" up the game more like someone already down the line mentioned.

please tell me that you are not really serious.. is that what you really understand from FREE market? FREE market doesnt mean unethical or irregulated market. why do you think the concept of "STATE" emerged in human socities even in the very early days then?? Why is there something called LAW?

I am shocked and suprised to see that someone here is defending exploitation???

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Start of the topic: Bilze Selling 4 billion water
Now: is CMB a good player or not?

OFF TOPIC

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Start of the topic: Bilze Selling 4 billion water
Now: is CMB a good player or not?

OFF TOPIC

New Topic: Whats a Free Market:)

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but he blamed me when i wanted to buy water for 0.08 when the market was 0.09.. he threatened people that their accounts will be deleted if they send water to me with that price.. i believe this is a free market and everybody is wise enough when deciding to whom or in what price they are selling..
my point from the very beginning and again! why it is correct when he is doing and why it is not correct when i am doing???? i guess i made my point.. he called me a cheater and threatened people that their account will be deleted when they do business with me..

come on.. he has blaming you (you said that 'he has blaming you'.. i not said that).. so what?
he's not a judge.. just a normal player like me and you.. maybe he has VIP account but he still ordinary human.

I'M NOT BLAMING YOU.
you can count yourself amongst 1,000 player in Kapiland.. how many players blaming you and called you cheater when you asking water for 0.08?
i think it less than 10%.. or maybe less than 5% or maybe it only him and himself.

i hope you don't quit Kapilands to make this game more balance and fun.
when more big company compete with each other, it will benefits small companies like me.
i as a 'small companies will always love you guys compete each other' for example in buying coins.
we also hope single company or organization will not fixed market price for our product and we'll be freely sell our product with highest price as we can ^^

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yes i completely agree he is a good player he pays fair prices for all he buys I think his wardrobe prices are fair

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but he blamed me when i wanted to buy water for 0.08 when the market was 0.09.. he threatened people that their accounts will be deleted if they send water to me with that price.. i believe this is a free market and everybody is wise enough when deciding to whom or in what price they are selling..
my point from the very beginning and again! why it is correct when he is doing and why it is not correct when i am doing???? i guess i made my point.. he called me a cheater and threatened people that their account will be deleted when they do business with me..

come on.. he has blaming you (you said that 'he has blaming you'.. i not said that).. so what?
he's not a judge.. just a normal player like me and you.. maybe he has VIP account but he still ordinary human.

I'M NOT BLAMING YOU.
you can count yourself amongst 1,000 player in Kapiland.. how many players blaming you and called you cheater when you asking water for 0.08?
i think it less than 10%.. or maybe less than 5% or maybe it only him and himself.

i hope you don't quit Kapilands to make this game more balance and fun.
when more big company compete with each other, it will benefits small companies like me.
i as a 'small companies will always love you guys compete each other' for example in buying coins.
we also hope single company or organization will not fixed market price for our product and we'll be freely sell our product with highest price as we can ^^

you have no idea how many igms i received after his fax.. whatever.. thats your point and i respect that.. but my point of view is different in this issue.. and he is not the main topic of this thread.. everybody is free to develop ideas about him or any players. but as i said b4. i will not let him walk away this time. and i apologize in advance from those who will be disturbed in the rumble..

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TIB is just a ballon syndicate pumped with fairness chants doing unreasonable things among some community or doing nothing infact...
1450 1400 1500 1600 are all reasonable prices for wardrobes
CMB is sending tons of faxes (sometimes a bit agressively) and trying to score and doing good...
and [b]the dude who claims only noobs build power plants in green is not that smart[/b]

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jup like cash said... dont belive that [censored].

im just thinking of producing some water to ruin that stupid plan.. could be around 500 million a day ^^

Make that 750 million. You would have my full support as always.

ps to bilge: other than jonny, cmb has been the most helpful player in the game to me.

Even when I hit top 200, top 100, top 50...these guys never stopped helping out with advice etc.