fast sellers?

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fast sellers?

Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 02:34

I am looking to open a new production building in the soon futrue and wolud like to know what products sell fast on the market. i already sell water and power which i know sell fast but i have been looking at cattle, oil, and coal or other minreals. do any of these sell fast and what other products sell fast? thanks.

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 03:42

Stones are good because you don't have to worry with quality. Also, check into producing high quality seeds, or just seeds in general, they are a very good product because they only require water to produce. If you invest in plantation research, and develop seeds to higher quality, you can sell something you make for .01 at 90% profit. Probably one of the best margins of profit on any farm product... and people always have to have seeds, regardless of what they are growing, so you have a huge potential market.

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 03:43

Why market? You make better money at the selling building. But fast and great profit, i see oil n gas do make some decent gains (depending on time - i can make easily 3X for gas, nvr bother to sell oil thu) and they sell fast too (at times as well - hey its market :P) not to sure about oil, but i think chemical, steel are doing not bad themselves.

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 04:02

i can make easily 3X for gas

If you are producing your own gas, that isn't a very good profit rate, you should be getting about 9X for gas, if your station is in a red area.

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 06:32

3X in market. But in gas station, i m doing about 6x for a un-expanded gas station at Q0 which i think its pretty decent, i think....

just another interesting point, doing a profitable business and getting huge sum of money (with less profit) is totally different, depends on how you would like to play it i supposed. I.e. Product A can gives you 10X ROI but you only sells A at 2 but for B you get about 2X ROI but you can sell it for let say 100.

Hence, think of which direction you are heading.

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 07:04

Everything sells fast if the demand is high and the price is low.

The tricky part is to determine where demand is high and where not. Oil is probably a high-demand-buisness as many people produce water these days (due to the high price) and so the oil-supply is a bit low comparing to the high demand.
Gas probably also sells pretty good. As a general rule, look what end products are sold the most than you can likely expect to have a high demand in the needed materials of these products.

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 12:28

I am part of an oil synidcate. We have more people on our forum ASKING for oil to be sent to them than we have people to produce it!

Oil is in high demand. As far as contracts go, demand is more than supply so imo oil is a good industry to be in :D

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 21:10

see, why do u want things that sell quickly on the market? fast cash? u should want things that sell better overall. even if u have to wait an hoour for returns

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 21:19

just for fast money, most fast sellers do sell well all around and arent a one time thing where everybody needs it then get enuogh money to produce there own, i have found through watching peoples products and how fast they sell that they sell fast every time. So just a quick question, are cattle good sellers or is it not something worth putting my money into?

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Post by Guest » 13.02.2007, 23:25

stickman, I think you will find, a product is a 'fast seller' whenever it is offered at a good market price. This works with all the products, because someone is using all products at any given time. The idea of the game is to determine what formula works best for you. Perhaps you want to turn smaller profit faster? Maybe you want to make larger profits over time? It's all up to your own personal philosophy here, there are no 'right' or 'wrong' ways... well, maybe a few 'wrong' ways... but, I digress.

Every company is different, and all the markets are different. You just have to check your markets in the stats, find out what is a potential 'fast seller' by looking at supply, demand, and average price and quality produced. Pick something and go with it! If you discover French people like chickens, and want chickens, yet few or none are being produced for them, and they are willing to pay a fair price for the chickens, then you may want to build a grocery in France and sell chickens you raise cheaply in Mali.

The markets will also fluctuate, so what might be a 'fast seller' today, may not be so tomorrow, so you should also plan for the future, in case your market collapses. When I started this game, steel was selling at 65, now it's over 100, power was .30 and now it's .08, so things will go up and down with the market demand and supply. So there really is no sure 'fast seller' product you can find here, just many different opinions on them.

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Post by Guest » 14.02.2007, 00:27

yes i relize thaty but some products are gonig to generly sell faser then others, lets take water and suger canefor example, yes suger cane may come to sell faster then water but as there is more need for water from players it is most likey going to sell faster, this is like most other products, more people use it so it is gonig to be a faster seller. Im not entirly sure if this is what you are trying to say but since i havent being playing the game as long as you, i will take your advice over my knowleage as chances are, you are gonig to be right and i am not.

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Post by Guest » 14.02.2007, 00:56

stickman101 wrote:yes i relize thaty but some products are gonig to generly sell faser then others, lets take water and suger canefor example, yes suger cane may come to sell faster then water but as there is more need for water from players it is most likey going to sell faster, this is like most other products, more people use it so it is gonig to be a faster seller. Im not entirly sure if this is what you are trying to say but since i havent being playing the game as long as you, i will take your advice over my knowleage as chances are, you are gonig to be right and i am not.
We are probably on the same level, I've only been playing a couple weeks. I've spent a lot of time looking at different aspects of the game, and I was just speaking from my 'experience'. You are right, products that people will always need, are usually the best, and most secure, although they also produce less profit sometimes, because everyone is producing them, since everyone needs them, does that make sense? It is sometimes better to make money, by finding things that people need, which no one seems to be producing. I have found there is a good demand for products which are required in making more complex products, like chemicals and textiles, for example.

The 'Stats' page is a great resource, if you haven't explored it. You can see what various markets are demanding and paying for all the products sold in a store of any kind. Take a look at the supply/demand numbers, and find a product not alot of people are supplying, and there is a reasonable demand for, if it suits your demands for profit, build a store and foundation around selling that product in that market.

That's my .02 Kapidollars worth, but I am a newbie too!! :?

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Post by Guest » 14.02.2007, 01:29

But stickman101, you have to put also into consideration of your production time (btw, i am a noob myself). I playED b4 as a sugar man, but it didn't work out, taking too much time. Hence, if you put water and sugar cane, (unless you do not produce your own seed), water deems to be a faster way to make some quick buck. Cattle on the other hand, process is also quite long (once again assuming that you control your whole production flow to minimize the cost to the max).

But my money will be put for things like, steel, chemical, oil for now. Gas been getting pretty low price (from a comfortable 3x to a mere 2x profit), and looking at it probably it will drop some more, if you want to play quick money in the market.

To me in long run, its better to just to sell it back to NPC tru your selling building, of coz you waste a bit more time (but market isn't that time guarantee as well) but it assure a very good profit (red zone). It also reduces your risk in the market dependency situation, goes same for if you need to get your supply from there or you depends on ppl to buy it from you. But having said that, its always possible to make some quick buck selling it to market at times when you have surplus of stocks in your warehouse and your selling building is fully occupied.

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Post by Guest » 14.02.2007, 01:53

yes, i know about production times and have also found that altohugh water and other products liek that that everyone needs will never give as much profit in ratio as other products that not many people use so not many make them. what i mean by this is that not as many people use apples as they do water, so altough you can sell water faster you can not sell it as high as apples or no one will buy from you, apples on the other hand, although you need to have the lowest or one of the lowest prices, the product can be sold for more as it is more expensive to make and, less peopel are maknig it for the public so if you want, expect to pay more for, if there was more people producing it then it woludnt be as expensive. anyway, i think i explained that well enough now for the production times. yes i know that some things take longer then others to make and may have numorus steps involved but it seems to me (not sure) that they also sell for much more then simpler products, they may not sell as fast but as you guys are saying, they don't need to sell fast jsut sell well. I am thinknig that we are all on the same page now, jsut say if i am missing something.

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Post by Guest » 14.02.2007, 04:22

i know that some things take longer then others to make and may have numorus steps involved but it seems to me (not sure) that they also sell for much more then simpler products, they may not sell as fast but as you guys are saying, they don't need to sell fast jsut sell well.

That's it. Also, some products do not sell well because most people who need them, are already producing them. Cattle would be a good example, if someone is in leather goods, they will probably produce their own cattle, and not buy it from the market. They might occasionally buy small quantities to fill out a run, but you will never have a high market demand for cattle, because they are easy to produce for those who need them, and they are not a store product people can sell. The exception might be in quality cattle, people might buy a higher quality on the market than they could produce, in order to make a higher quality product, so you could tap into the high-quality cattle market, maybe?

On the other hand, there are products that many people use to make other products, Oil might actually be a 'faster seller' than Gas, because people use oil to make a variety of other things, and Gas is a finished consumer product to sell in stores, which people are probably already producing themselves. Corn is another good example, it is a product that is used in almost every production of cattle related products, Cattle, Pigs, Chickens, Eggs, all require Corn. It is because of this, Corn is fairly low on the market now, so much is being produced, but it will always sell, because there will always be a high demand for corn, and as time goes by, with higher quality corn. The trick is finding a product that people need and want, but don't want to produce themselves.

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