I m thinking about selling a few buildings and then building/buying 10 furniture stores 2000-4000m2. I just had a few questions. How long does a furniture store take to sell everything? Lets say 4000m2 8000 wardrobes at the standard market price (2000 average). So i guess what i m asking is how many wardrobes can i sell a day in a 4000m2 store? And also how many warddrobes i could buy by using faxes/forum like CMB and others do.
so here s my plan:
1) 10 new buildings 2000-4000m2, either furniture stores for wardrobes or i might sell some leather jackets
2) no production, I just buy everything.
I m still not sure how profitable this is . Lets say it takes 24h to sell the 8000 wardrobes and i have 10 stores. 80 000 a day and i profit only 500 per unit which is 40 million. Buy for 1500 sell 2000. I guess i ll know more after i know how long it takes to sell and which pricing. Obviously its hard to find 80 000 wardrobes coz CMB & gang have already grabbed all the suppliers.
a few questions regarding the furniture business
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the supply normally is not that big at the beginning
but wait. if you enter this part and another big player then a few people will have a closer look at and perhaps even follow you or just change from apples to cattle.... so the supply can grow in a few weeks
and thats the main point. have you calculated how much cattle or corn you will need to run 20 textile factories only making leather?
and then you need even more to make textiles.
The thing will be - if you wonna change to the leather branch - then you should specify on it and leave the other markets. Just my opinion. And perhaps you should contact spiral block / Herr Kaiser first
but wait. if you enter this part and another big player then a few people will have a closer look at and perhaps even follow you or just change from apples to cattle.... so the supply can grow in a few weeks
and thats the main point. have you calculated how much cattle or corn you will need to run 20 textile factories only making leather?
and then you need even more to make textiles.
The thing will be - if you wonna change to the leather branch - then you should specify on it and leave the other markets. Just my opinion. And perhaps you should contact spiral block / Herr Kaiser first
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I have nothing to do before I go so I will write this to give some insight.
Please excuse my English. English is my fourth language
I read the joke about everybody has wardrobes with leather jackets inside them but with no pants. Everybody uses a lot of gases without owning cars. Everybody also enjoy tv sets a lot
There is obviously a flaw in how things are selling in kapilands. But you must adapt and learn how to live with it or you won't enjoy playing kapilands.
There are several products that are the best selling products in kapilands and give more profits compared to other products. I give them the title of the kings of products of kapilands.
Of these products, some of them have a player or several players that produce or sell these products in a large quantity that they can have big effect on the price of these products in their retail stores.
I won't mention the name of the companies. I will give initial to them as it is the decent thing to do.
The first king of products of kapilands are gas.
As the supply and demand of gas are gigantic, there are no players that can affect the price of gas. There are still some large companies that sold gas for example MIS, JI, SI1, SI2, VI, PC, SG, and a lot other companies. Some of the largest companies in kapilands produce gas as gas is one of the most profitable products to sell.
The second king of product of kapilands are wardrobes.
There is one player that sells the largest amount of wardrobes in kapilands and I think everybody knows that CMB is the one. There are several others large players like BL and NH that sell wardrobes but they can't effect the wardrobes sales as much as CMB could.
The third king of product of kapilands are leather jackets.
As I still produce and sell very small amount leather jackets I know about leather jackets the most. The largest company that sells leather jackets is SBA. There are several other players that also sell large amount of leather jackets, but I think they don't effect the sales of leather jackets as big as SBA do in leather jackets.
If you see the price of leather jackets especially in France you would see what I meant by a player or several players can have big effect on the price of the product.
One day the price of leather jackets is 2000 for q2 leather jackets. The demand are 300k and the supply are 100 k. The next day the price of leather jackets is 1000 for q8 leather jackets. The demand are still 300 k but the supply are over 500k now.
Maybe some of you already know that there is almost no profit that you get when you sell a product with supply over demand. So before the stats of the day change, several players sell 400k leather jackets that day. As the stats of the day haven't changed, they can sell any amount of leather jackets that exceed the demand for next day. When the stats of the day change, other player won't be able to sell leather jackets anymore in that country if they want to get some profit.
Here is an example of how a player or several players can have a big effect on the price of a product.
The fourth king of products of kapilands are television.
The largest company that sell tv that I know is LP. The other companies are F(o) and KG. I don't really know about tv so please help me here
These are the most profitable products in kapilands right now. Gas, wardrobes, leather jackets and televisions almost always still give more profit compared to other products.
Varg, if you want to sell one of these products you must consider this.
As you are now producing and selling gas I think it would be better for you to concentrate on selling gas in gas station as gas is still one of the most profitable product in kapilands right now.
If you aim to have big FA as you have said before that you want to get into top 40 FA companies, then it is true that you can get there easier by building and expanding furniture stores compared to gas stations. But you must remember that it is not easy to get some wardrobes to sell in your furniture stores if you don't produce them yourselves
If you want to have some calculation, I recommend you to contact Ca. You know who I refer to, don't you?
Hope my post can help you
Please excuse my English. English is my fourth language
I read the joke about everybody has wardrobes with leather jackets inside them but with no pants. Everybody uses a lot of gases without owning cars. Everybody also enjoy tv sets a lot
There is obviously a flaw in how things are selling in kapilands. But you must adapt and learn how to live with it or you won't enjoy playing kapilands.
There are several products that are the best selling products in kapilands and give more profits compared to other products. I give them the title of the kings of products of kapilands.
Of these products, some of them have a player or several players that produce or sell these products in a large quantity that they can have big effect on the price of these products in their retail stores.
I won't mention the name of the companies. I will give initial to them as it is the decent thing to do.
The first king of products of kapilands are gas.
As the supply and demand of gas are gigantic, there are no players that can affect the price of gas. There are still some large companies that sold gas for example MIS, JI, SI1, SI2, VI, PC, SG, and a lot other companies. Some of the largest companies in kapilands produce gas as gas is one of the most profitable products to sell.
The second king of product of kapilands are wardrobes.
There is one player that sells the largest amount of wardrobes in kapilands and I think everybody knows that CMB is the one. There are several others large players like BL and NH that sell wardrobes but they can't effect the wardrobes sales as much as CMB could.
The third king of product of kapilands are leather jackets.
As I still produce and sell very small amount leather jackets I know about leather jackets the most. The largest company that sells leather jackets is SBA. There are several other players that also sell large amount of leather jackets, but I think they don't effect the sales of leather jackets as big as SBA do in leather jackets.
If you see the price of leather jackets especially in France you would see what I meant by a player or several players can have big effect on the price of the product.
One day the price of leather jackets is 2000 for q2 leather jackets. The demand are 300k and the supply are 100 k. The next day the price of leather jackets is 1000 for q8 leather jackets. The demand are still 300 k but the supply are over 500k now.
Maybe some of you already know that there is almost no profit that you get when you sell a product with supply over demand. So before the stats of the day change, several players sell 400k leather jackets that day. As the stats of the day haven't changed, they can sell any amount of leather jackets that exceed the demand for next day. When the stats of the day change, other player won't be able to sell leather jackets anymore in that country if they want to get some profit.
Here is an example of how a player or several players can have a big effect on the price of a product.
The fourth king of products of kapilands are television.
The largest company that sell tv that I know is LP. The other companies are F(o) and KG. I don't really know about tv so please help me here
These are the most profitable products in kapilands right now. Gas, wardrobes, leather jackets and televisions almost always still give more profit compared to other products.
Varg, if you want to sell one of these products you must consider this.
As you are now producing and selling gas I think it would be better for you to concentrate on selling gas in gas station as gas is still one of the most profitable product in kapilands right now.
If you aim to have big FA as you have said before that you want to get into top 40 FA companies, then it is true that you can get there easier by building and expanding furniture stores compared to gas stations. But you must remember that it is not easy to get some wardrobes to sell in your furniture stores if you don't produce them yourselves
If you want to have some calculation, I recommend you to contact Ca. You know who I refer to, don't you?
Hope my post can help you
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I'm not sure it's all so profitable to directly buy the jackets self.
What I've seen mostly done is produce the jackets and then sell them (but buy the mats to make the jackets).
Among other things, it's better adapted to the landscape in this branch (which is split between cotton / textile producers, and cattle / leather producers). Seldom will you find a single person making both.
It also gives you some degree of control on the Q of the jackets you send to the store, and allows some textile / leather mix and match that will allow you to combine batches, and also secure your sales profits as your jacket research progressively raises.
What I've seen mostly done is produce the jackets and then sell them (but buy the mats to make the jackets).
Among other things, it's better adapted to the landscape in this branch (which is split between cotton / textile producers, and cattle / leather producers). Seldom will you find a single person making both.
It also gives you some degree of control on the Q of the jackets you send to the store, and allows some textile / leather mix and match that will allow you to combine batches, and also secure your sales profits as your jacket research progressively raises.
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soul system is right
i started out in leather jackets (but there was a market crash)
the best thing to do is buy leather and textiles and make the jackets yourself.
The production of jackets is the biggest profit maker in the line. But there are a few problems, SP is the main player in the line, and he dictates the price of leather and textiles. From what i have seen he has decided to crush the cotton producers. Lowering the price of textiles to under 100, with cotton being sold at 30 this aint gonna last long, either the cotton or his price.
The last thing i must warn you about is that the leather jackets market is a very small one, its not like gas, tvs or wardrobes, where you got almost a never ending market.
i started out in leather jackets (but there was a market crash)
the best thing to do is buy leather and textiles and make the jackets yourself.
The production of jackets is the biggest profit maker in the line. But there are a few problems, SP is the main player in the line, and he dictates the price of leather and textiles. From what i have seen he has decided to crush the cotton producers. Lowering the price of textiles to under 100, with cotton being sold at 30 this aint gonna last long, either the cotton or his price.
The last thing i must warn you about is that the leather jackets market is a very small one, its not like gas, tvs or wardrobes, where you got almost a never ending market.
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In the specific case of Spiral, he's been droping his prices drastically since he came back from holidays. I wouldn't say it's representative of the real textile market. Since he's been back from holidays, he seriously lowered the price of both his textile and leather purchases. He is obviously simply trying to cut a bit on new supplies while he's processing whatever accumulated in his warehouse.But there are a few problems, SP is the main player in the line, and he dictates the price of leather and textiles. From what i have seen he has decided to crush the cotton producers. Lowering the price of textiles to under 100, with cotton being sold at 30 this aint gonna last long, either the cotton or his price.
People immediately think of cotton, but textiles also require 350 power per unit, which is far from negligible, and makes textile rather sensitive to the power market. Right now, power can be sold at 0.15 / 0.16 easily on the maket (we'll say a pessimistic 0.13 actually in your pocket). So 350 x 0.13 = 45.5 kapis... just on the power. With the 3.5 kapi production fee, you're already at 49 kapi of raw mats before even factoring in the cotton. So a price of 80 is rather unrealistic, because even with a cotton driven down to 10 per unit (which is far from happening), you'd still make more money selling the raw cotton & power, than maintaining buildings to further process them into textiles.
If it were down to 10, you'd obviously be better off making Q0 wood than high Q cotton anyway =)