Power Plant were to put it

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 00:02

Where is the best palce for me to build my power plants can someone help me?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 00:15

Just to use yourself... green
To produce for sale... green when the price is .13 or less, Red if more

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 04:29

http://www.forum.kapilands.com/viewtopic.php?t=18905
Our last crack at this topic
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Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 08:22

Ravenstar Corp wrote:Just to use yourself... green
To produce for sale... green when the price is .13 or less, Red if more

That is of course not true. It doesnt matter at all if you produce it for yourself or for sale.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 08:28

Of course it does numbnuts, if your bulk user is yourself then the .01 production cost is the over-riding concern whilst if you are producing in bulk for sale then potential profitmargin to be gained with the extra production becomes a factor.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 08:52

I still think a mixture of green and red is the best.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 09:32

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 09:37

Ravenstar Corp wrote:Of course it does numbnuts, if your bulk user is yourself then the .01 production cost is the over-riding concern whilst if you are producing in bulk for sale then potential profitmargin to be gained with the extra production becomes a factor.

this would be true if you were on an isolated island of in the middle of rainforest where you had no access to market whatsoever. when you DO have access to market, however, the thingy you described plays no role.

next time think real hard before you utter such nonsense, ok?

oh and on side note, its better to have red power plants when the market price is 0.13 or more.

or if you are in the phase where you just started building new plants, i think 0.25 or so is the border. when you have your slots filled, then just sell the green ones and buy red ones

detailed analysis anyone?
ok lets see

the market price is 0.13.
green power plant produces 100X power every day. you just use it all up, nothing left over, you dont need to buy any extra. production costs for that power are X caps.

red power plant makes you 100X * (1+0.25) = 125X power. production costs for that power are 3.75X caps. you use 100X power, which means you are left with 25X power that you can sell. for that power you get 25X*(0.13-0.013) = 2.925X caps.

Now, the production costs for green power were X, for red power 3.75X. The red power thus costs 2.75X more to produce. However, with the red power you can satisfy your needs and even make 2.925X caps profit. Now this profit can be considered to cover your expenses with the more expensive red power, and you still have something left, namely 2.925X-2.75X = 0.175X

Things of course get better for red when the price increases. Under .13 per unit the green one is better. But it is in no way connected to what you are using the power for.

I wonder whos the numbnut now

seriously people, why the hell do you do posts if you dont have the slightest clue what you are talking about?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 10:16

You don't have a clue do you.

If you are Only producing power for your own use then market price is irrelivant, the only thing that is relivant there is base cost per unit... which in green is 0.01 in red the unit cost is 0.3 300% more which doesn't cover the upside of having 25% more production.

If you are producing to sell then there is a point which the profit made per unit is high enough with the extra production to offset the difference in unit cost. However you need to deduct the loss from your own power usage from that.

Don't try to teach your grandfather to suck eggs, you ain't good enough!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 10:21

its pointless to argue with people who just wont use their brain eh

you have all the arguments but noooo, like a horse wearing blinders

try to read my previous post again and again, but this time try to force yourself to use your brain ok?

oh and before reading my post for 10 times, read this beauty http://www.forum.kapilands.com/viewtopi ... ght=#20509

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 10:39

I don't need to read it numbnuts it is self evident.

Green = unit cost 0.01

Red = unit cost 0.03 but production +25%

The decicive factor is how you are using it.

It doesn't matter what the market price is if you are only covering your own energy usage

If you are selling then the portion you use yourself would still benifit from being green UNLESS both the market price and the proportion of produced energy that you are selling brings in a greater profit margin than the 300% cost increase of production. Hence you have to deduct the loss of 0.02 per unit of your own energy consumption from sale profits.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 10:42

i wont argue with a guy with a 1mil worth company who digested all the economical knowledge in 1 hour.

read.
think.
think.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 10:54

I won't argue with a numbnut who has gained all he knows from an internet game rather than from the economics of life outside his moms basement.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 10:56

Ding!! Ding!!

end of round one

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 07.06.2009, 11:12

He doesn't know what he is talking about however the point I made regarding it doing a game just caused Me to re-evaluate My working out.... there is a building limit cap in the game which there isn't in the real world, you only have 60 (or 100) slots in the game which means you have to compaire slot usage profit.

Damn it I was wrong...... compleatly wrong. yes and numbnuuts was right... but for the wrong reasons.

Red red red.... yes you may have a slight disadvantage is the early game however by the time you fill all the slots you will need 25% less slots to cover your energy use which you can then use for other units... either additional powerplants for energy producing companys OR other revenue producing units which bring in even more profit than Power plants.