cost of steel
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cost of steel
does anybody know the cost ot produce steel in the red zone. i have been tryingti find iy in help but can't. uggg, i can't wait for kapitools to come out in english.
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The steel of prices go high and down. The steel price is terrible, it never remains the same.stickman101 wrote:does anybody know the cost ot produce steel in the red zone. i have been tryingti find iy in help but can't. uggg, i can't wait for kapitools to come out in english.

stickman, I would recommend a steel factory in green. I know there are two different opposing views on this, and for any other type of production factory, other than a tv station, I would go with red. Because of the nature of steel production, and the array of materials needed to produce it, you will often find your factory idle, waiting for something to be produced, (usually coal). Therefore, when you are able to produce a run of steel, you can afford the extra time it takes to produce it in green over red, because this gives you needed time to obtain more resources for the next batch. Plus, the production costs are so much cheaper, and with a product like steel, this is crucial.
On the flip side, you can produce steel faster in a red factory, and those who invest in a red factory to start, will be at an advantage later in the game, because more steel can be produced in a given time. You can always build a red factory later, if you find you like steel production, but for starters, I would build one in green.
On the flip side, you can produce steel faster in a red factory, and those who invest in a red factory to start, will be at an advantage later in the game, because more steel can be produced in a given time. You can always build a red factory later, if you find you like steel production, but for starters, I would build one in green.
I personally use a red factory for the faster output, but when I am waiting for materials to produce steel I keep the factory working on gas.
I would suggest only investing in steel production after you have at least one other well developed product. I say this because I am working on steel as my second product and am still finding it expensive to produce. The gain is large, but I make steel in batches of 1000 and I find my bottleneck is my mine. You need 3 different raw materials from the mine and one of them has to be preprocessed in the factory before you can start producing the steel. I'm sure that for a larger company this is not a problem, but for me with only one 2 employee mine, it is a long cycle. I am currently working on another mine, but they are also expensive.
So I would suggest, when developing steel, to make sure you have the capability to provide the raw materials at a reasonably quick rate to make steel and get your money back. Otherwise it can be a large investment to get started and difficult if you don't have regular money coming in from another source.
I would suggest only investing in steel production after you have at least one other well developed product. I say this because I am working on steel as my second product and am still finding it expensive to produce. The gain is large, but I make steel in batches of 1000 and I find my bottleneck is my mine. You need 3 different raw materials from the mine and one of them has to be preprocessed in the factory before you can start producing the steel. I'm sure that for a larger company this is not a problem, but for me with only one 2 employee mine, it is a long cycle. I am currently working on another mine, but they are also expensive.
So I would suggest, when developing steel, to make sure you have the capability to provide the raw materials at a reasonably quick rate to make steel and get your money back. Otherwise it can be a large investment to get started and difficult if you don't have regular money coming in from another source.
Halee -> I have 2 steel factories in Red, and they are in constant production ... I think the last time they were stopped was last week
I also have 3 Mines going towards (mostly) coal, and iron ... and at the odd time a mess of minerals and switch one factory to chem production ... its a nice lil mess ive fell into 
also - stickman, i think that if u did decide to invest in steel later in ur career, it would be beneficial, because u can usually make 4x ur initial investment ... just make sure u have the money to cover urself while things are in production - as it does produce a little slow.


also - stickman, i think that if u did decide to invest in steel later in ur career, it would be beneficial, because u can usually make 4x ur initial investment ... just make sure u have the money to cover urself while things are in production - as it does produce a little slow.
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If you buy everything at the market, should be in the 75-90 range per steel. If you're keeping everything inhouse..cost is about..15-20.stickman101 wrote:does anybody know the cost ot produce steel in the red zone. i have been tryingti find iy in help but can't. uggg, i can't wait for kapitools to come out in english.
That's pretty much what I have done, except I have two small factories in green and one in red. I have three mines, one for coal, one for ore, and one for minerals and stone. I produce the steel in my larger 9m factory in red, but the chemicals and gas are constantly going in my greens. I can manage to keep continual production now, but I had to develop stockpiles of coal and power... (it takes a ton of power to make steel)Getus wrote:Halee -> I have 2 steel factories in Red, and they are in constant production ... I think the last time they were stopped was last weekI also have 3 Mines going towards (mostly) coal, and iron ... and at the odd time a mess of minerals and switch one factory to chem production ... its a nice lil mess ive fell into
also - stickman, i think that if u did decide to invest in steel later in ur career, it would be beneficial, because u can usually make 4x ur initial investment ... just make sure u have the money to cover urself while things are in production - as it does produce a little slow.
Steel is not really a primary product for me, I decided early on that steel was a vital and necessary material in the game, and invested in my own internal production for growth. So far, I am using some steel to make wardrobes, but most of it is going toward expanding and building, and every now and then, if I peek at the market and see it soaring at record highs, I will throw out 100-300 kg to turn some fast cash.
I would recommend the 3-mine/2-factory strategy for anyone considering steel production, otherwise, it will take you forever and a day to produce it.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I started into steel just to reduce the costs of my own expansion, I just wasn't fully prepared for how expensive and time consuming it is (especially having only 1 mine when I first started). But I am hoping to get 3 mines and one expanded factory to be primarily for steel. I'm getting there.