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42 wells
40 factories
14 gas stations
2 well rc
2 chem rc

Uh? Where are you building your factories?

Me figures are like this - the figures in my Excel sheet

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37	wells	92.796 	90.320 	+ 2.476 
40	factories	451.560 	0 	451.560 
19	gas stations
2	RC oil
2	RC gas

Level manager - 100 m

[Guest]

hehe while i type you place a post

well.... you said it yourself gas stations would be the most money maker..
thats why i choose the 50 gas station setup since that wil make me at 1000m2 : 2.5 mil gas = roughly 112,5 mil (price added as 45 per gas)

its gonna be hard to find gas suppliers

remember all the smart players sell their gas at their own gas stations (unless the stations are expanding)

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Uh? Where are you building your factories?

Me figures are like this - the figures in my Excel sheet

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37	wells	92.796 	90.320 	+ 2.476 
40	factories	451.560 	0 	451.560 
19	gas stations
2	RC oil
2	RC gas

Level manager - 100 m

[Guest]

oke i made some calculations..... your right your losing alot of production after 1000m2

new setup

40 gas stations / 20 wells / 36 factories / 2 each RC

at 1000m2:
stations need 2 mil gas
wells produce 326k oil = 1,63 mil gas
factories produce 2,6 mil gas
need to get 200k oil

at 2000m2:
stations need 4 mil gas
wells produce 490k oil = 2,45 mil gas
factories produce 4 mil gas (exactly enough for the gas stations )
need to get 310k oil

i think its not that hard to get this amount of oil if you offer a nice price i gues plus i dont think it has any use of upgrading past 2000m2 since you get a very bigg loss on production and with 4 mil gas a day (dont know value of say Q20 gas but say 45) you get 180 mil a day.

plus i think it will get messed up with 4000m2 aswell since your factories cant supply the need for your gas stations so you need to find contracts of gas for roughly 2,5 mil a day wich might get hard but this setup seems to be oke up to 2000m2 i gues.

btw i calculated the numbers at industrielist level (your level varg )

so your opinion now plz

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I think you should either produce all your own oil or none at all. If your gonna buy all the oil that means 400k a day at 60-70 which is 25-30 million a day. I dont like to depend on the market to provide my oil so i would just build a ton of wells. Seems like you want more gas stations. Just go with 35+35 then and you get 26 gas stations.

If you can find someone to supply u a million oil a day then fine just build factories and gas stations. Otherwise produce your own oil for maximum profit per unit. Or if you can find gas suppliers to get you 5 million a day (pretty much impossible) you can just build 25 2000m2 gas stations and sell the 5 million in 2 12h shifts.

[Guest]

wel as you said realy, gas station are prolly the best money makers
also at 2000m2 i need 310 oil to get it even wich is average 20 mil would stil make me 160 mil a day. at 4000m2 prolly 400k wich would be 30 mil orso perhaps but you should consider i think your money income doubles up aswell to 360 mil and thats just 10% then
correct me if i am wrong here produce everything myself more wells i would also need tons more of power (extra cost to) plus less income since less gas stations. if i would not make oil and buy off market-contracts i need at 2000m2 800k oil and that would cost me at average (65) 52 mil .... plus alot harder to get to and then we get the factor
no oil = no production = no income
only building gas stations and buy gas would prolly make most income but if you build 98 gas stations at 1000m2 you need 4,9 mil gas and at 2000m2 9,8 mil wich would be more inpossible i fear dont even consider at 4000m2
so i think the setup i made (again new agruments accepted ) i produce 62% oil myself so if i wont get oil from market or contracts i dont loose income

[Guest]

i think u r kinda obsessed with the gas stations. I only have 10 and once i expand those to 4000m2 I can sell 4 million a day. So having 40 1000m2 gas stations is kinda pointless and you are better off using the building slots for gas production. Remember that your own gas will only cost you about 3-4c. If you start buying oil for 65c that means the gas will cost 13c+.

You should probably figure out how much oil you can buy and then see whats best.

So build big gas stations and produce a lot yourself. I think thats the key. Instead of producing less oil and buying the rest you should just build bigger gas stations.

[Guest]

i think u r kinda obsessed with the gas stations. I only have 10 and once i expand those to 4000m2 I can sell 4 million a day. So having 40 1000m2 gas stations is kinda pointless and you are better off using the building slots for gas production. Remember that your own gas will only cost you about 3-4c. If you start buying oil for 65c that means the gas will cost 13c+.

Don't forget stores are not like production buildings in the sence two 200m2 Gas Stations will sell the same amount of products in the same amount of time as one 400m2 Gas Station.

[Guest]

Think about having 40 wells, 40 factories - 4 RC's and only 16 gas stations
And now use following figures:
gas stations: 36,000 m

[Guest]

plz explain azer

cause the way i calculated the increasment of the gas stations is:
size x 50 = how much it can sell
20m2 sells 1000 / 40m2 sells 2000 / 80m2 sells 4000 i think this pattern wil stay at any size doesent it?
so if this is so varg 10* 4000m2 wil only sell 2mil gas and my 40 * 1000m2 would sell 2 mil also but i think i will save 100's of mils expanding money correct?

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or a more realistic setup

40x 2000 wells = about 1mil oil a day
40x 2000 factories = 4.4 million gas day

so there will be about 100k oil left over every day which u can sell or whatever


so your 16 gas stations need to sell 4.5 million gas a day

about 280k per gas station

a 4000m2 sells 200k a day so if you have 16 4000m2 gas stations you can almost sell everything in 1 shift

if u decide to go with 2000m2 gas stations you would have to sell about 3 times a day in 8h shifts.

so go with:
40x2000
40x2000
16x4000
and big RC's 5000m2+

now you just need to find some funding to support all that

[Guest]

plz explain azer

cause the way i calculated the increasment of the gas stations is:
size x 50 = how much it can sell
20m2 sells 1000 / 40m2 sells 2000 / 80m2 sells 4000 i think this pattern wil stay at any size doesent it?
so if this is so varg 10* 4000m2 wil only sell 2mil gas and my 40 * 1000m2 would sell 2 mil also but i think i will save 100's of mils expanding money correct?

10 X 4000 = 40,000
40 X 1000 = 40,000

40,000 - (10x20) = 39,800m2 of expansion
40,000 - (40x20) = 39,200m2 of expansion

But what isn't calculated in is the amount of cash you can make from those extra 30 building slots. That should more than make up for the extra 600m2 of expansion.

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[quote="Dwarf"]Think about having 40 wells, 40 factories - 4 RC's and only 16 gas stations
And now use following figures:
gas stations: 36,000 m

[Guest]

just follow the last post i made and u ll be fine

40x2000
40x2000
16x 4000

after you expand the wells and factories to 4000m2 u can expand the gas stations accordingly

u obviously wont start out like that but can start with 500m2 etc and just follow that 2:1 ratio

so something like

40x 200m2
40x200m2

16x 400m2

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plz explain azer

cause the way i calculated the increasment of the gas stations is:
size x 50 = how much it can sell
20m2 sells 1000 / 40m2 sells 2000 / 80m2 sells 4000 i think this pattern wil stay at any size doesent it?
so if this is so varg 10* 4000m2 wil only sell 2mil gas and my 40 * 1000m2 would sell 2 mil also but i think i will save 100's of mils expanding money correct?

10 X 4000 = 40,000
40 X 1000 = 40,000

40,000 - (10x20) = 39,800m2 of expansion
40,000 - (40x20) = 39,200m2 of expansion

But what isn't calculated in is the amount of cash you can make from those extra 30 building slots. That should more than make up for the extra 600m2 of expansion.

what ya mean with isent calculated in the amount you make with the 30 extra building slots?