What should beginners focus on?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.03.2007, 22:01

Hello everyone!

I recently registered to this magnificent game, so I currently don't have any ideas on how to improve my company. I know topics like this exist in the forums, but I really need some help.

I currently have about 220,000. I was thinking about expanding my fruit plantation to 120 m2, I don't know if that's a good idea. It should get the money back in 10 days by my calculations (apple Q4, seeds Q2).

I was also thinking about selling my plantations (how much would I approximately get from them?) and starting a gas company (1 well, factory and a gas station). It would be a start, and who knows, maybe someday I will be able to produce electronic products or jewellery.

Anyway, are there any suggestions on how a newbie like me should start? Basically I'm even willing to be a supplier of some sort of raw materials (always open for contracts).

PS! Sorry for some grammatical errors, English is not my mother tonque.

Thank you for your time,

Eagle Industries

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.03.2007, 22:08

hmm, I'd not start with fruit. You'll need the plantation though. Build q0 lemons with the fruit one for now and flog them on here.

A gas business would be quite nice.

You could probably just sell stones or wood too. Jewels are certainly not for a beginner... Textiles or gas is your best bet in my opinion

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.03.2007, 22:16

I've seen it many times recommended to new users to start out with the oil well, gas factory, and gas station. That's what I did, after restarting a couple of times. I personally like being self-sufficient and not needing to depend on others for the raw materials I use and the products I put into my stores. As time goes by, you can expand your oil and gas production, and maybe build a power plant.

Once I got my gas production and sales rolling along comfortably, and my initial stock of raw materials was depleted, I started building mines and factories to produce steel myself. One less thing to be dependent on the market to provide, and it saves a ton of money. Why pay someone else 130+ for a piece of steel when you can produce it yourself for 30? You can either then sell the steel for some easy cash, or use the steel yourself (with wood and stone) to expand your buildings further. That's the stage I'm in right now, producing enough extra steel, stones, and wood to support between 40-50qm of expansion each day.

English isn't your native language? I wouldn't have guessed....you write better than most of my friends!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.03.2007, 22:25

For newbies, expanding early is not a good idea. The reason is that right now, the price of steel is so high that it's much cheaper to just build a new building.

For example, given a fruit plantation built in a green zone:

2 Fruit Plantations, 20 m2 : 75000 * 2 = 150000
1 Fruit Plantation , 40 m2: 75000 + ~300000 = 375000

The two cases produce the same amount, but one costs way more than the other, so build new buildings instead of expanding. Though there is a limit of 60 buildings (100 if you're a paid subscriber), so once you start nearing the cap you'll be forced to expand.

Also, learning which product is the best to start with should really be learned through trial and error - figuring it out for yourself is a great learning experience. You may have to restart several times, but once you get it right, you'll be a much wiser player.

One hint is that producing certain raw materials, namely power and water, is very easy. They may not be the most profitable, but you don't have to do too much work, and it's easy to figure out. Power needs nothing besides a little bit of money to be produced, and water only needs power. Power plants and wells are nearly entirely self-sufficient, and the product can be sold directly to the market for a decent profit.

Good luck!

P.S. your English is fantastic for not being a native speaker.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.03.2007, 22:34

Hmm, steel would indeed be very profitable, but unfortunately I can't afford a mine and a factory. The next option would be gas, but I looked it up and it turns out that I'm about 20,000 short (factory + gas station). Would you guys think it would be a wise decision to just build a factory (and a research type-a-thing), produce gas and sell it in the market (the price would be less than it would be in a gas station)?

EDIT: Oops! I completely forgot about those 5,000 steel in my warehouse. Yes, that surely opens up a few scenarios... How about 2 mines, 1 power plant and a factory (all in green) and the product is steel?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 19.03.2007, 22:38

restart your account, and sell some steel and you can build a well in yellow for oil, factory in red for gas and a gas station in red to sell your gas

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.03.2007, 01:03

well the lemons are about to send and it will change to something else so upgrading that to sell lemons is nto a good idea lemon prices already droped alot and i hink it will keep going down from now on

ya can always restart your acount i think everyone has at lest restarted 2 times befor they came up with something to do with there acount

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.03.2007, 03:13

I myself am producing lemons so I can produce steel in the future. I think that if you can make 2,000 Lemons a day you might be in the steel business in four or five days. I thought about resetting my account but I am very glad now! I hope you make a good decision.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.03.2007, 03:28

I started to play a week ago.
Enjoyed a little bit the tutorial but restarted before finish it to skip.

I saw the Coffee Powder Supply and Demand in the market and went that way with a Food Factory, Grocery Store, a couple Plantations and a Well.
After a couple days I discovered how hard is to start with those kind of products being a noob

I sold the Grocery and some Steel to make some easy money and took another direction. Lemon contest helped me a little

I

Tycoon · Post by **Tycoon** » 20.03.2007, 04:49

Christopher wrote:I myself am producing lemons so I can produce steel in the future. I think that if you can make 2,000 Lemons a day you might be in the steel business in four or five days. I thought about resetting my account but I am very glad now! I hope you make a good decision.

Please be careful with lemons... contest will end on Friday... maybe prices increase during the next days or they may fall... they may also reach their highest level on Friday.... and from Sunday on there will be another contest product

My personal opinion is not to begin with the food branch. I think this branch only pays out if you have huge stores and factories/ plantations, having profit by the quantity you sell.

Jewelry is difficult, like Walthir said: you need tons of power for the raw material.

I started nearly the same way like racingtigger and have now this gas + the electronical branch.
I began with a well, factory and gas station... after having the first profit, I built a mine (I did this quite soon as I was able to sell stones to the market, which will always be required by other players)
I did not sell my beginners material! Even if it increases your cash for the time being, you will need e.g. the steel a little later on. And then it really hurts having to buy it

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.03.2007, 06:35

My advice would be to focus on producing raw materials and selling to market until you can build up enough cash to branch out. I sorta 'cheated' in this version, I bought a few coins and launched a major corporation, but in the German version, I have not invested in any coins, I have built my company the old fasioned way. There, I started with mines and wells, mostly wells. I built a power plant in green and expanded it to 40m, just to produce power for my production, and I have been selling oil and stone like crazy. After a couple of days, I was able to build a mine&well research, and slowly increase my quality of oil. Then I finally built a gas station and a factory to make gas. In about a month, I have a 3Mil fixed asset company going, and I am making good profits. Again, my main product is oil, then stone, then gas for my station. I have a plantation that grows only wood and seeds, and I sell the wood at market as well. Raw materials are one of the best industries you can go with, because the quality need not be high, and stones are always Q0. Most people who buy raws to expand, are seeking Q0 as well, so no matter how advanced the game becomes, there is always a substantial market for Q0 raws.

Another good idea for a beginner, is textiles. You have a plantation already, you can grow cotton, which is the 'fuel' of the textile industry. Take a look at the market price for textiles, and what buyers will pay... it's more expensive than steel! Yet, cheaply produced cotton and power is all you need to make it. I would venture to say a person who decided to produce just textiles and sell them at market or by contract, could probably make as much or more than steel producers.

That's my 2 caps worth!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.03.2007, 06:57

Just to go against what Tycoon said, I would definitly sell my steel as soon as possible (after you have made all the buildings you want for a while), because this beginning cashflow will help your production in the beginning.
I sold mine when it was around 120, and don't regret it because I made enough money to buy another 2 factories and start producing more steel.

In turn, you need to do your own calculations and figure out what route you want to go - dont try and tackle all of them, but dont be so narrowly defined into one of them. Just remember you can always 'Restart' in ur profile, and u can do it without the tutorial, so that u dont create buildings it makes you but have the capital to make the ones u want.

Yes, u will eventually need more steel - but
1) it cannot go above 135.00 caps per (because of the NPC price)
2) selling it now will get you to that point faster, which is a good thing
3) selling it is 100% profit

Tycoon · Post by **Tycoon** » 20.03.2007, 07:05

But this 100% profit only exists as long as you do not need to buy steel... otherwise it is a loss...

In my opinion, you should think about producing your own steel: if you calculate e.g. on plastics or chemicals from the factory, you can maybe make more profit with this than with steel. But this is just one point of view

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.03.2007, 07:17

well i did a better way with all my free steel is a made Wardrobes with it and man 75% profit off each one with that free steel realy healped me i think it got me like 5 buildings all beacsue of that steel it realy helps you move

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 20.03.2007, 07:37

sirsamby wrote:Jewels are certainly not for a beginner...

Could you tell me please, how long does it take to sell jewels in the store for example in France? Does anybody have this time statistics?

And how is it hastened with advertisements?