Can I expand forever into the stones market?
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Guest
Can I expand forever into the stones market?
I'm currently making 300k stones a day and doubling my fixed assets every 2 to 3 weeks. That suggests I can go up an illion every 20 to 30 weeks. Will the stones market accept 300M a day? How about 300B a day in 40 to 60 weeks? Can one newbie crash the stones market?
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Guest
Well,
According to my own calculations you can't reach that production value, let me explain:
Suppose you have a normal account (60 buildings) and all of them are yellow mines and all of them are expanded to the top (32.767sqm).
- FA of each mine: 196.722.000,00
- Total of FA: 60 x 196.722.000,00 = 11.803.320.000,00 (It means that you are at Tycoon level)
- Production of each mine at the tycoon level on a cycle of 24 hours: 577.508 stones
- Total production of all mines: 60 x 577.508 = 34.650.480
So your top production of stones will be a total of 34.650.480 stones day, needing a total of 173.252.400 units of power and a total of 34.650.480 units of water, I don't think that production will crash the stone market.
According to my own calculations you can't reach that production value, let me explain:
Suppose you have a normal account (60 buildings) and all of them are yellow mines and all of them are expanded to the top (32.767sqm).
- FA of each mine: 196.722.000,00
- Total of FA: 60 x 196.722.000,00 = 11.803.320.000,00 (It means that you are at Tycoon level)
- Production of each mine at the tycoon level on a cycle of 24 hours: 577.508 stones
- Total production of all mines: 60 x 577.508 = 34.650.480
So your top production of stones will be a total of 34.650.480 stones day, needing a total of 173.252.400 units of power and a total of 34.650.480 units of water, I don't think that production will crash the stone market.
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Guest
I, too, produce stone on Realm 2. At the moment my production turns over 11 million stone daily of which most of it goes into daily contracts.
Stone will always be in domand. However, if you have watched the stone prices lately on realm 2 you can see a problem. Almost every day the price of stone drops for two reasons. Reason number one is more stone is placed onto the market than bought, there is more supply than demand. Reason number two is people don't know how to price their stone.
You see the market like this:
9,000,000 @ 15c
1,000,000 @ 14.99c
100,000 @ 14.5c
1,000 @ 14.00c
500,000 @ 13.99c
It SHOULD look like this:
9,000,000 @ 15c
1,000,000 @ 14.99c
100,000 @ 14.89c
1,000 @ 14.00c
500,000 @ 15.88c
You place your price 0.01 bellow the offer that matters, in size. 1,000 stone is nothing, either ignore it or buy it up and add it to your sales. Not doing so hurts your pocket aswell as other peoples pockets.
Stone will always be in domand. However, if you have watched the stone prices lately on realm 2 you can see a problem. Almost every day the price of stone drops for two reasons. Reason number one is more stone is placed onto the market than bought, there is more supply than demand. Reason number two is people don't know how to price their stone.
You see the market like this:
9,000,000 @ 15c
1,000,000 @ 14.99c
100,000 @ 14.5c
1,000 @ 14.00c
500,000 @ 13.99c
It SHOULD look like this:
9,000,000 @ 15c
1,000,000 @ 14.99c
100,000 @ 14.89c
1,000 @ 14.00c
500,000 @ 15.88c
You place your price 0.01 bellow the offer that matters, in size. 1,000 stone is nothing, either ignore it or buy it up and add it to your sales. Not doing so hurts your pocket aswell as other peoples pockets.
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Guest
@ SiberianTiger
Right, I knew there was a 32k sqm limit per building, but didn't realize how soon I could get there. Assuming the markets hold up, then, I can get to billionaire fairly straightforwardly in maybe 3 to 6 months, but advancement from there is *linear*!? I guess I'll have to get interested in Q research.
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Not 3 to 6 months, but more like 3 to 6 years. It takes half an hour per sqm of expansion, so a full mine will take almost 700 days to build. Since only some buildings are in expansion, the process will go on for years and years, beyond most players' tolerance, especially since most "persistent" games reset more often than that. No wonder some players just give up on fixed asset expansion and accumulate cash. The big dogs must have some better system involving stores and Q research of finished goods.
Right, I knew there was a 32k sqm limit per building, but didn't realize how soon I could get there. Assuming the markets hold up, then, I can get to billionaire fairly straightforwardly in maybe 3 to 6 months, but advancement from there is *linear*!? I guess I'll have to get interested in Q research.
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Edit:
Not 3 to 6 months, but more like 3 to 6 years. It takes half an hour per sqm of expansion, so a full mine will take almost 700 days to build. Since only some buildings are in expansion, the process will go on for years and years, beyond most players' tolerance, especially since most "persistent" games reset more often than that. No wonder some players just give up on fixed asset expansion and accumulate cash. The big dogs must have some better system involving stores and Q research of finished goods.
Last edited by Guest on 14.11.2008, 18:23, edited 1 time in total.
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Guest