Making Losses [closed]

Ideas how the game could be improved and suggestions for subsequent versions of the game. (this is just a space for ideas! We can't guarantee suggestions will be implemented!)

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Guest

Post by Guest » 11.11.2009, 23:51

felixbluindustries wrote:Lets stay more on topic here :roll:

How about this. Greater influxes in the stats page. Therefore there may be a few weeks or days every now and then where the gas and automobile demand goes down. While something such as animal food rises. Then pork will have a good day 1 day into the gas downturn and pork sells for double the price etc etc.

Of course it wouldn't be permenant, but having a shift around with the stats would be interesting so that they are ever changing, not just once every 24 hours and also have them vary more like in real life.

Here in GB we have petrol(gas) and it varies quitea bit sometimes, based on environmental factors eg the iraq war, discovering gas in the north sea, environmental campaigns taking a step up. These all causes the price of petrol to vary from quite low to very high. I'm sure these things go on in other places and in other types of industry.

I'm not saying kapilands or upjers should go through newspapers from Germany, France, Turkey, Saudia Arabia... etc etc or even make up fake things, maybe let the newspaper team make up fake things if something big happened, would make the news more interesting :) But anyway yeah bigger jumps, maybe then we WOULD have people in the milk industry making a massive killing while the wardrobe makers and sellers suffer! :P

Just my 2 cents ;)
I know realize why i still like u, That Was brilliant mate

Guest

Post by Guest » 12.11.2009, 00:12

Everyone should love me and pray to the almighty Felix :)

Or just send me prezzies :P

Guest

Post by Guest » 12.11.2009, 00:35

WTH is a prezzies?

Guest

Post by Guest » 12.11.2009, 07:04

A prezzie, in PROPER ENGLISH THAT YOU ACTUALLY LEARN ( :lol: )
is a present.

Guest

Post by Guest » 12.11.2009, 11:08

child please....

Guest

Post by Guest » 12.11.2009, 17:52

I like the word prezzies :lol:

Anyway back on topic please :) Lets not discuss my favourite words/phrases/accents etc in this thread, make a thread if you must, but not in the suggestions forum ;)

Good idea and could maybe be passed onto the developers?

Guest

Post by Guest » 12.11.2009, 21:34

to the off topic land of mystery and magic!
NARNIA!

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 13:35

All we need are expenses. We can factor in seasonality and fluxuations in demand. But without expenses anyone can run any kind of company profitably.

Have administration costs: wages; light and heat based on m2; rates based on m2.

Ive noticed people have put forward ideas for shares and all the rest of it but without expenses these things arent viable. If there is exponential growth there is no point in a Stock market.

Demand fluxuations could be introduced after the expenses issue is cleared up.

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 15:29

jamyduff wrote:All we need are expenses.
Never encountered productions cost in your buildings eh??

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 17:56

Ronintje wrote:
jamyduff wrote:All we need are expenses.
Never encountered productions cost in your buildings eh??
Yeah wages and rates all are included in the production costs of our buildings when you make something.

The overall way that the whole of kapilands makes money is from the final purchasers- the NPC who buy from shops. So to make it possible to make losses on good prodcuts and gains on others you have to change how much and fast the shops sell- meaning changing the stats more often :)

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 18:23

Never encountered productions cost in your buildings eh??[/quote]

:roll: You have a delightful manner!
You will notice i used the term "administration expenses" before. Production costs are all well and good but since i am talking about administration expenses i am thinking more along the lines of indirect costs. Production costs can only be classified as direct costs as they are totally variable according to levels of production and are totally avoidable. What i am interested in are more fixed- loosely fixed (mixed)costs. Costs that you cant simply avoid by not producing anything.

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 18:31

jamyduff wrote:
Never encountered productions cost in your buildings eh??
:roll: You have a delightful manner!
You will notice i used the term "administration expenses" before. Production costs are all well and good but since i am talking about administration expenses i am thinking more along the lines of indirect costs. Production costs can only be classified as direct costs as they are totally variable according to levels of production and are totally avoidable. What i am interested in are more fixed- loosely fixed (mixed)costs. Costs that you cant simply avoid by not producing anything.
He is talking about the set fee for each product you produce.

Example: A Factory in the Red zone wants to produce steel it needs:
5 Coal
2 Iron Ore
0.5 Chemicals
200 Power
15 caps Production cost

While a Factory in the green zone produces steel it only needs:
5 Coal
2 Iron Ore
0.5 Chemicals
200 Power
4.50 caps Production cost


That production cost includes: wages, taxes, fees and everything else except the materials used to make the product. Production costs are set fee depending on which country the building is in. (Red has the highest fees, Yellow is in the middle while Green has low fees.)

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 18:36

He might be talking about fees that you have to pay daily like office rent.

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 18:47

jamyduff wrote: :roll: You have a delightful manner!
You will notice i used the term "administration expenses" before. Production costs are all well and good but since i am talking about administration expenses i am thinking more along the lines of indirect costs. Production costs can only be classified as direct costs as they are totally variable according to levels of production and are totally avoidable. What i am interested in are more fixed- loosely fixed (mixed)costs. Costs that you cant simply avoid by not producing anything.
Maybe you should consider reading the forum rules first.

Azer already answered this reply, so i don't need to get into that again.



Gosh, and people actually demand more stickies for topics, as if people bother reading the current ones :lol: :lol: :lol:

Guest

Post by Guest » 13.11.2009, 22:20

kingrewt wrote:He might be talking about fees that you have to pay daily like office rent.
Well you don't have to pay rent if you own it ;) :P

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