Stats

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 28.03.2007, 23:19

go to
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=es ... uage_tools

And see what nice stats are for the german version of Kapilands (the link its a google translation)

Actual link is :
http://kapiland.dd-hosting.de/stats/index.php

Is there any possibilities that we have something like this for the English version?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 29.03.2007, 00:51

That is nice. I would settle just for a list of historical transactions:

Date/time ... Product ... Quantity ... Quality ... Price

At least that way I could chart it myself and answer questions like:

Are Coal prices cheaper in the morning or in the evening?
Are Potatoes getting more expensive over time?
How many Bananas are sold on the market each day? Is it dead?

And many more. Good fundamental information easy to get with the raw data. No names necessary, it can be completely anonymous except to the people involved.

Tycoon · Post by **Tycoon** » 29.03.2007, 07:30

This was done by one of the german users on his own.
So, if anybody wants to do it for the English version, it could also be done here.
(as long as the rules are being taken into consideration)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 31.03.2007, 15:17

You know, now that I look again, the page actually isn't what I thought it was. (Blame my nonexistant German.) What they did is for the Stats screen. It's cute, and I suppose helpful to some people, but not radically different than what's available there.

If you wanted to set something up like that for yourself, it's not much work to get Excel to make a page like it. The key tool you want to use is Data -> Import External -> Web Query. Once a day you'd copy the previous day's data to your baseline sheet, import new data, compare the two, and update a results page.

What I would like is data on the Market transactions for all 95 products. There's no way to do that because info disappears off the market screen as soon as someone buys it. The only way I could possibly come close would be to query the page constantly and compare versions to see what changed. Not only would that be much harder to write, but it would be a devastating load on the servers.

Unless there's some backend to the data? If there's a way to get information without going through the official pages, then it might be possible to create something like that. Tycoon do you know any tricks?

Tycoon · Post by **Tycoon** » 31.03.2007, 18:59

No I don't. But I know that there were big argues going on in the German versions when people made exactly this going through the pages, trying to find market info and accessing the server too often.

As there are too many players, who could do so and even did, the server also crashed some times in that version. That's why the creator does not really like such tricks

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 01.04.2007, 05:01

Tycoon wrote:No I don't. But I know that there were big argues going on in the German versions when people made exactly this going through the pages, trying to find market info and accessing the server too often.

As there are too many players, who could do so and even did, the server also crashed some times in that version. That's why the creator does not really like such tricks

Oh, I C

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27.04.2007, 15:04

interesting

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 04.05.2007, 23:23

Tycoon wrote:No I don't. But I know that there were big argues going on in the German versions when people made exactly this going through the pages, trying to find market info and accessing the server too often.

As there are too many players, who could do so and even did, the server also crashed some times in that version. That's why the creator does not really like such tricks

How about generating a stripped-down market translaction log, then? It would remove the need to refresh the market page so often.

It could be simply a text file containing data, for example, in format suggested by Knolls in http://www.forum.kapilands.com/viewtopi ... 6347#16347.

Assuming 60 bytes of data per transaction and, what, 10,000 transactions per day, this kind of a log would require about 600,000 bytes or less than 600 kilobytes of space. You could have one file for the current day ("marketdata.log") and one for the previous day ("marketdata.old"), and replace the previous day's log with the current day's log at the end of the day.

If space is not at premium, it would be nice to have even a week's or a month's archive of market data...

Of course, if this data could be turned into an RSS feed, somebody could develop the Kapilands ticker tape that I fantasized about in a previous post...

A nice little widget on the desktop with scrolling text of Kapilands market prices in near-real time...