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3 Musketeers Rant

Post by Guest » 05.07.2007, 04:33

Why don't the musketeers ever carry any muskets?
Why do they even call them musketeers?

Every time I've seen a musketeer in a movie he's always fought with a sword, so why not call them swordateers? You'd think that you would.

you know, the musketeers?
Like the candy bar.
Micky mouse?
Porthos, aromous, groucho, chico and harpo.

And why even call a 3 musketeer bar and 3 musketeer bar?
They didn't even have candy bars back then that I'm aware of, so doubtful that the 3 musketeers, in addition to "NOT" fighting with muskets ever invented the 3 musketeer bar, so why call it that?
Not to mention that there where 4 of them in the movie and hundreds of them in real life.

or is this all a big time travel [censored] up?
The 3 musketeers fought with muskets, so they named a candy bar after them, then somebody traveled back in time and gave them one of those candy bars and they liked it so much they decided to name themselves after the candy bar, which drew a lot of attention to themselves becoming celebrities having a candy bar named after you. Which only made somebody jealous so he stole their muskets, which is why they had to fight with swords.

Or is this just a Hollywood invention?

Maybe the musketeers really did fight with muskets but not that action packed for a movie you know.

"STOP OR I'LL SHOOT!"
"DAM, I MISSED"
"WAIT COME BACK WHILE I RELOAD MY ONE SHOT MUSKET"
five minutes later,
"AH, NOW I CAN SHOOT AT YOU AGAIN, STAND STILL"
etc, etc, etc.

I guess it was just better for the movie if they had swords to fight with so they didn't have to reload after each shot maybe?
But then why call them musketeers?

I really can't be the first one to notice this, after all the musketeer movies there have been.

Wouldn't that be the first thing you'd ask after leaving the movie theater after watching a musketeer movie?

"Oh yes, very nice, action packed and all but where were the Muskets?"

And what would it mean if you were eating a 3 musketeers bar that you bought at the candy stand while watching a musketeer movie?

It's gotta be something.
Not irony, unless the real 3 musketeers died by getting covered in chocolate and eaten by somebody.

Now that would be ironic, not to mention bad taste,
which would also be ironic since 3 musketeers bars actually taste good.

But there has to be some sort of literary name for that, you'd think.

And do they sell 3 musketeers bars in France?
Or do they call them something else?
Like ninjas that fight with baseball bats,
or astronauts who only drive cars?
Bombardiers who drop old rotten fish on people instead of bombs?
or or the cowboy bar?

Cause in every cowboy movie I've seen I don't think I've ever seen an actual cow either.
No butch enough I guess for the movies.
You'd think if they went to the trouble to call them cowboy's that they'd vaguely have something to do with cows, don't you?

I mean the real cowboys did, they were the ones who'd drive the cattle to the market, thus cowboys but that would be too boring for the movies as well, cept "City Slickers", which had nothing to do with cities.

It is almost as stupid as when they recast the lead role of the movie "shine" to a white guy cause they thought black people would get offended.

If they really wanted to call the 3 musketeers bar something more of that era then why not the "minute man" since that is about how long it takes to eat one?

sorry, I just think things should be named what they are.
if you don't use a musket then you are not a musketeer so you should not call yourself a musketeer.

Or did they call the musketeers and then invent the musket and name it after them?
And why?
I'm pretty sure they had muskets just prior to the French Revolution, since they had them in the American revolution, which happened first, chronologically.

Oh well, I guess it is one of those questions you'll never really know the answer to, like if how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop.

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Re: 3 Musketeers Rant

Post by Guest » 05.07.2007, 05:57

dbsuma wrote:Why do they even call them musketeers?
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I guess it was just better for the movie if they had swords to fight with so they didn't have to reload after each shot maybe?
But then why call them musketeers?
Actually you did answer your own question. Because muskets take so long to reload, each one also had to be proficient with a sword. Nor would a musket be any good in hand-to-hand combat.

They were called "musketeers" because that was the most defining feature. A "swordsman" you wouldn't expect to carry a gun. But (in that day) it was taken for granted that a musketeer would carry a sword. The cavalry was so called because they were on horseback, but naturally they carried weapons.

As for the movie, well Hollywood logic should be pretty obvious. I don't recall if Dumas covered much with shooting in the book, but it all stands to reason that watching two people taunt each other while swordfighting is far more exciting than one shooting another dead from 200 yards away.

The candy got it's name because it originally came with 3 pieces (vanilla, chocolate, strawberry) to a wrapper, and you would take it and share it with your two friends because you are a team like the 3 Musketeers. (Apparently d'Artagnon doesn't get any candy, either.) At some point Mars figured it was better to just change the candy and keep the name, rather than introduce some brand new chocolate bar.

Knolls, your candy expert. :D (BTW the candy bar Baby Ruth was not named for baseball player Babe Ruth.)

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Post by Guest » 10.07.2007, 17:39

here is another question i dont know the answer to, who named Monday, Monday. Or Tuesday, Tuesday. Or Wednesday, Wednesday. Who said there was 7 days in a week, where did god come from.

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Post by Guest » 10.07.2007, 17:51

A musketeer had a musket, a bajonet and a small sword as stadard equipement.

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Post by Guest » 10.07.2007, 18:31

farmboy wrote:here is another question i dont know the answer to, who named Monday, Monday. Or Tuesday, Tuesday. Or Wednesday, Wednesday. Who said there was 7 days in a week, where did god come from.
HERE is a good place to start finding an answer about that. ;)

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Post by Guest » 10.07.2007, 18:53

Wikipedia does have it's uses, doesn't it?

Interesting topic. I knew Thursday was for Thor, and had guessed easily enough that Saturday related to Saturn. But I had no clue on the gods' names for other days. Now I have to try to match the Greek with the Roman with the Olde English, as in

Ares :: Mars :: Tiu

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Post by Guest » 10.07.2007, 19:13

Why don't the musketeers ever carry any muskets?
Why do they even call them musketeers?

Every time I've seen a musketeer in a movie he's always fought with a sword, so why not call them swordateers? You'd think that you would.
FOr in the time and age they lived in, anyman bearing services to the king, emporer, cardinal and has engaged in wars where called musketers,

Second, in the day muskets where very very bulky, only about 50 years past they required 2 men and a stick,

Third they were of indirect guards of the king, The palace had its guards but the king had this men, To be accepted to thy ranks of them you must have to prove your skill and honour, (something of the victoria cross) They were elit and knoing of this, they had the choice of weapons on the conditions that they have atlest 1 sword on them, since as you say they had slow reload weapons ( with very very poor accuracy) all you have to do is dodge a bulet that has 15% of hitting you at 35 feet,

Fourth: THere is a show that has thy men and they do use guns but rarely.

5: I Know all thy from reading many books.

CHeers mate

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