Gas Station Question

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It is amazing that you have seen so much of the world and only learned about stereotypes. Maybe you need to get new glasses and try again?

I am humbled by your ability to assume; you can so easily assume that you are the only person ever who has seen the world and you are so sure that your conclusions are all there is to see. I am almost glad for you that your world can be so black and white - and that in it you can cast yourself as a tortured martyr. I hope it makes you happy.

You also have provided me a good chuckle a few times. Thanks for that too.

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i think you really misunderstood it, they didn't mean that there is 90% of wealt concentrated in 10% of population in every country. They didn't mean that 90% of congo's wealth belongs to 10% of congo population, consider it more global

Duh

so you consider the ones that study university and those that have a good business plan and are not afraid to fulfil it "The weak and easily controlled" and you call those lazy uneducated idiots that don't put any effort to making thair life better "The independent and strong"

well, using your terminology, i think it's right to push up "The weak and easily controlled" and push down "The independent and strong"

just to clarify that i don't support american military actions, actually i don't care, they probably know what they're doing and we can speculate about the motives but we simply don't have enough information to judge

if i could choose, there would be no war, but i can understand that after surviving WWII without any harm, they were really disapointed by 09/11 and acted like that

OMFG, JHMFC, LMFAO

So what did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
I don't think anyone ever said they did.
9/11 and planned and executed by the illegal BU$H administration to justify invasion of Iraq, that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Neither did Afghanistan for that matter.
Sure they said that Ben Laden supposivly lived in Afghanistan but he is not from there, in fact the Afghanistan government had been trying to get him out of their country for years under suspicion that he was a CIA agent and didn't want the trouble maker around anymore.

The BU$H administration's falsely claimed that Iraq was trying to buy material to build a nuclear bomb. This information came to them from British intelligence, even the CIA told BU$H that it was all a lie but it was enough to justify the invasion of Iraq, under the pretext of looking for WMDs, something that the UN inspectors had been doing for decades and searched the country with a fine toothed comb.

Of course BU$H could not find the WMDs that the US sold them previously because they did not exist, so they had to change the reason they were there.
They are not there because of 9/11,
They are not there because of WMDs,
They are there to steal their oil for the Carlyle group and haliberton.

Yes, Sadam was building a super gun about 15 years ago but it would not have been powerful enough to reach the US or Europe but it could have easily have it Israel if had ever been completed, which it wasn't.
The guy who was building it for him died suddenly under suspicious circumstances and Sadam had no clue how to finish it himself after he lost his scientist.

And as for the first part.
I'm not saying all the poor are strong,
I'm saying people who are found to be strong and independent intelligent people with a sense of ethics are made to be poor.
Not that all people who are whores are promoted, some are promoted for other reasons.

Rich and powerful people want those that serve them to be weak and easily controlled, so that is who they hire.

They will ask you if you will do this,
If you say no, that it is wrong, you are fired,
If you say yes, then you are promoted and given a raise.

That is just how the world works.
Maybe not on TV land where we are all brainwashed to believe that the world is a nice happy happy place but in the real world thing work different.

In the real world all these so called poor

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you disarmed me, i don't have exnough power to fight with stupidity of that size

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You also have provided me a good chuckle a few times. Thanks for that too.

Thank you,
if I've done nothing else but entertain you then I'm pleased for that much.

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woah...this is some conspiracy going on here. If you've been to all those places you've been I can't believe how you would think America is such a dump, I've been to Russia once, to pick up my little sister who we adopted. I liekd the people and all, but lemme tell you the country is a dump. It's going nowhere. Where as in America, business is thriving, buildings are going up, jobs open up, dreams are becoming reality, so many people are living out a productive, happy life.

And you think that the Bush Administration pulled off 9/11? Hell I have a house just down the road from Bush Sr. Up on Cape Arundel Maine, he's a great guy and so is his son, our President. Nowhere in the history of the United States of America has any president done what you are suggesting. As well as you not supporting our military, I'd love for you to meet some of the boys and go out to Dodge City every once in a while with em. You have no idea sir, no idea at all.

I'm ashamed to be associated with people like you that live in America. We are one nation, under God, and forever will be.

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So to answer your question myth12345679, Gas does not sell faster in Mauritania.

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thanks, i was begining to forget my own question

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Of yes, sorry for ruining your topic Myth

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dbsuma, are you by any chance an anarchist?

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no problem i dont care

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Where as in America, business is thriving, buildings are going up, jobs open up, dreams are becoming reality, so many people are living out a productive, happy life.

Sir, you are high as a kite.

US Unemployment Rate
(Cross referenced by sitting US president)
Johnson 3.4%
3.4% Nixon 7.2%
7.2% Ford 7.6%
7.6% Cater 7.5%
7.5% Reagan 5.4%
5.4% BU$H I 7.1%
7.1% Clinton 3.8%
3.8% BU$H II 6.3%

US Total New Privately Owned Housing Units Started; Thousands

March 1959 1620
March 1969 1561
March 1979 1847
March 1989 1422
March 1999 1710
March 2007 1518

Manufacturing: Total Employment (thousands)

1967 18025
1977 18531
1987 17809
1997 17587
2007 14051

Textile product mills(thousands)

1990 215.7
2000 218.1
2007 155.5

Chemicals Total Employment (thousands)
1990 1039.5
2007 867.6

Utilities Total Employment (thousands)
1977 592.6
1987 726.0
2007 549.0

Transportation equipment
2000 2082.7
2007 1704.7

Miscellaneous manufacturing
2000 736.6
2007 657.7

Leather and allied products
2000 70.2
2007 35.9

Printing and related support activities
2000 811.1
2007 631.4

Internet publishing and broadcasting
2000 51.2
2007 36.9

Telecommunications
2000 1325.5
2007 973.0

ISPs, search portals, and data processing
2000 515.8
2007 386.1

Accommodations and food services
2000 9967.4
2007 11538.1

Hey, thar ya go Bubba, jobs went up in the food services.
You've got a wonderful future ahead of you working at Burger King, good luck with that.

I'm ashamed to be associated with people like you that live in America. We are one nation, under God, and forever will be.

Yes, well I'm not entire too happy living with an entire nation that has no clue as to what they are talking about but have no problem telling you all about regardless of how far from reality it really is.
"Sanity is not statistical."

dbsuma, are you by any chance an anarchist?

An Anarchist?
No, That's a libertarian for those of you following along in the States.

No I'm just an ordinary rational free thinking human being who believes that the humanity would be better served by working for the greater good rather than the greater wealth.

And why not?
It is possible to make people happy and still make money you know, so why not?

I believe in win/win politics but todays enviroment of US politics is more like steal little/steal big. Step on their throat and take everything they have, then charge them for having you do it.

It is disgusting to see what our world has degraded into.
Orwell is turning in his grave.

"WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH."Chapter 1, pg. 6

"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

"The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact."

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See that Snydes? You can't possibly be happy, he has numbers! Unsourced numbers. And not from www.cia.gov which he used previously. Can't be from there, they put unemplyment at 4.8%, but that wouldn't look nearly as cute. Though I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove anyway, that no one is happy and we're all about to die?

Also, very selective numbers. Everyone knows the US had a huge housing boom in 2002-2006 - causing worries about too much housing and an oversupply. So you give numbers for 1999 and 2007. I guess if it was raining on May 1, and it's raining on June first, I can use that to prove it always rains here! Serious looks at data are continuous, and use a chart like this:


Source: U.S. Department of Labor: Bureau of Labor Statistics

Here are housing starts:

But here I really don't know what you were even attempting to prove. Even at troughs it's not like houses are getting demolished! These are new houses added to all the existing ones.

Look dbsuma, I'm making a final attempt to seriously help you out because someone is filling your head with crap and in the long run it's going to hurt you most of all. The stuff you see every day - the statistics on the charts and the life outside your window - by and large it's not better or worse because of what the government does. Or from what some big companies do. It's from what you and every individual does.

The statistic that really matters is entrepreneurship, new businesses created. And when you look at that in terms of % of the population, the US is second highest in the world for population involved in brand-new businesses.(*) (#1 spot btw goes to fast-growing China - cheers for them!) It's risky but this is where real wealth comes from.

Not some government making decisions that you can't possibly understand but have to assume about. If anything the government gets in the way of prosperty too often. And not the big companies where you picture yourself hoping for someone to tell you what to do. I'll tell you this - if you can be told what to do, you can be replaced. By another worker, or by a machine. Real prosperity comes from the risk and the decision making, and the creativity that only you can bring. Either you create your own job, or you are a key contributer to someone else's, but either way you are irreplaceable.

And the "big companies keeping you down" - back before most of them existed they were themselves being "kept down." 30 years ago Microsoft didn't exist. Now they're so big and successful that everyone feels free to hates them. Yahoo, Google, and eBay have been around half that. Go back a little farther and you see where huge monoliths like Walmart and Fedex were created. There were people then, who sounded exactly like you do. Well, more coherent. But they thought the big companies of the day were in control of everything. That was wrong then and it's wrong now.

And you know what those companies have in common? They started tiny, a couple hundred bucks and 1-2 employees taking a risk. They got rich and created many many jobs along the way. And now you're going to act like the jobs they created in the first place belong to certain people and can never go elsewhere? Please.

Mark my words. Companies that don't even exist right now will in 20-30 years be so successful that people then will be complaining about them. And I'll bet you a significant number are created right here in the US.

So if you want to be petty, and put a "$" instead of an "s" and act like this passes as intelligent discussion, I'm done with you. The only statistics I want to hear from you are how many businesses you've started and how many employees you've hired. People don't succeed because of conspiracy. They succeed because of themselves. Try having a little faith in humanity, and maybe yourself too.

(*) Source: 2007 Global Entrepreneurship Report

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Shouldn't this post be moved to another forum since this is nowhere near helpful to beginners?

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See that Snydes? You can't possibly be happy, he has numbers! Unsourced numbers.

http://www.economagic.com/

Sure I did pick the number I liked the best but that is my prerogative.
Mostly cause some of the numbers didn't start till 1990, others started in 1938 but didn't feel like listing them all.
Finally I just settled on listing 2000 and 2007 to see the change BU$H has made on American industry that Snydes calls "thriving" which is totally out of touch. All I've seen is "for rent", "For sale", "closed", "auction next month" in the windows of an unhealthy portion of the stores in my city.

Sure maybe the huge super chains are still staying afloat but not these "entrepreneurs" as you call them.

besides the unemployment rate is misleading, people can only collect unemployment for a given time period, I think 6 months. Once your time expires you are just not counted even if you have not found a job.
And since the BU$H unemployment rate has been so bad for so long the numbers don't really reflect those people who ran out of unemployment but have not found another job yet.

the US is second highest in the world for population involved in brand-new businesses.(*) (#1 spot btw goes to fast-growing China - cheers for them!) It's risky but this is where real wealth comes from.

BAHHH HA HA HA HA,
That doesn't count, China is mostly state run business.
You do know they are still communists, don't you?
Besides Many Arab countries just give money away to their citizens, for them to start up businesses, at no interest rates at all.
I'd think that it is pretty safe to say that most of the new businesses in America are not started by Americans, since we do not have the money.

How do you think BU$H got the money to start his first failed oil company, from the Bin Laden family, of Saudi Arabia.
The Bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan or Iraq.

years ago Microsoft didn't exist. Now they're so big and successful that everyone feels free to hates them

People hate Microsoft because the are dishonest and operate under unfair and illegal business practices, such as offering reduce if not free rates to manufacturers who include Microsoft pre-installed on the computers they sell. People hate Microsoft because an OS is not even necessary to run your computer, or didn't used to be till Microsoft made deals with software manufacturers that their software wouldn't run unless they user had Windows.
People hate Microsoft because consumers are forced to upgrade to the newer version which is pretty much the same as the previous version.

Why don't you have to take in your car every 4 years to buy a new steering wheel or the car stops working?

Why doesn't your microwave just stop cooking certain kinds of food all by itself unless you go buy a new one?

Why doesn't your cloths give you an error message that you are not allowed to wear that shirt with those pants and to please upgrade for more color combinations?

In what other industry besides software can you say "Hi, this is my product, it really doesn't work yet but we are going to force you to buy it anyway by making all other software incompatible with older versions.
But don't worry, we'll fix it and in 3 or 4 years we will force you to buy another version of our software that still doesn't work right either."

There is a difference between selling a product and extortion you know.

Oh, you don't like being taken advantage of?
Well then you can still buy an abacus as a computer alternative.

And now you're going to act like the jobs they created in the first place belong to certain people and can never go elsewhere? Please.

Who? What? HUH? What?
I never did any such thing.
Where?

And you know what those companies have in common? They started tiny, a couple hundred bucks and 1-2 employees taking a risk.

"And now you know the rest of the story"
Who are you? Paul Harvey?
See folks, all you have to do is get lucky and win the lottery or put a gun to somebody's head and force them to buy it regardless how bad it is like Microsoft and you too can be successful in America.

Yes, see people, somebody is gonna win that one in a million long shot and all the republicans can point their finger at the guy and say, "See American economics still works".
See Bill Gates succeeded and he is only 1 in 300,000,000 so you should be able to succeed as well and if you don't than it is all your own fault.
HA!

All those other 299,999,999 Americans are just too lazy.

The only statistics I want to hear from you are how many businesses you've started

1, gross profit $10
poorly constructed leather keyboard hand rests.
The boss was gonna throw them out but I asked if I could have them to try and sell to somebody at my night job.

Try having a little faith in humanity

yeah, that's my problem, I think if I just gave up on the lot of you I'd be much happier.

shouldn't this post be moved to another forum since this is nowhere near helpful to beginners?

Awe, I'm having ever so much fun.
Besides you'll need to know what to say to your customers when they call up to complain that the Cabriolet you sold them is only Q1.

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I didn't study politics, so i know about that thongs just in general, but I never heard of that names that you called the British parties. I think that they are called Conservative Party and Labour Party

That's correct. But I have to fill you in so you can appreciate how hilarious that "misunderstanding" (to be generous) is.

The House of Commons and the House of Lords are the two chambers of Parliament that were established over 700 years ago. The latter exists mostly as a figurehead, much as the Royal Family does, and has been pretty powerless for almost a century now. The elected officials, from both parties, make up the House of Commons which is all anyone really talks about.

He might as well have said the two parties are the Magnas versus the Cartas. And lest we forget, this was to support the argument that people are brain dead because they're comfortable with two parties.

And hey England, speaking of the Magna Carta, what's up with that thing? It's written in like Latin or something, is that trick to keep the common man down? Get with the times!

The lords are hardly 'powerless' and certainly cannot be equated to 'figureheads'....