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Power R2

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 12:29

Hello players,

I'm thinking of power price in R2, how low it will drop. I know everyone wants to sell faster their produced power. That`s why power is in market sold a bit cheaper than lowest price.

Is it possible that power producers sell power for instance for 0,13c. And some small producers will sell power for lower price, but they aren`t producing that much power to adjust power price.

How, we, power producers can control power price? Looks like price will drop and drop, because looks like demand is lower than supply.

Maybe the power price will fix then when profit will be valuable only then if you produce and sell high volumes of power. And small producers of producing daily 1M power won't see it easy profitable business.

Please leave your Ideas how we can adjust and control power price in Realm2.

Br,
gP

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Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 12:53

I'm not a power supplier, I'm just a power consumer.
And I enjoy current prices :) Especially in comparison with Realm1.

I think the situation will be fixed itself in the future, when a lot of top players expand their business and increase their power needs.
All artificial methods of raising power price will fail because many players want to earn little but fast money.

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 17:18

I currently produce a little over 1.2bil power per day and, to tell you the truth, I will always put my power on the market for at least 1 cap below the lowest market price. Keep in mind that you will pretty much always make a profit, however small, selling power. It's cheap to produce and it will always be in demand. Keep in mind that the market is constantly fluctuating. Just because R2 power prices are around 10-13 caps right now doesn't mean that they won't shoot up to 15+ tomorrow. Also, don't forget that the more expensive power is the less power we, the power producers, will be able to sell. This is especially true if power prices stay high for an extended period of time because folks will just produce their own power instead, therefore, not buying ours.

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Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 17:55

Eleknar wrote:I currently produce a little over 1.2bil power per day and, to tell you the truth, I will always put my power on the market for at least 1 cap below the lowest market price. Keep in mind that you will pretty much always make a profit, however small, selling power. It's cheap to produce and it will always be in demand. Keep in mind that the market is constantly fluctuating. Just because R2 power prices are around 10-13 caps right now doesn't mean that they won't shoot up to 15+ tomorrow. Also, don't forget that the more expensive power is the less power we, the power producers, will be able to sell. This is especially true if power prices stay high for an extended period of time because folks will just produce their own power instead, therefore, not buying ours.
you must be a lawyer ... so much blabbing for telling absolutely nothing

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 18:31

GREED inc. wrote:you must be a lawyer ... so much blabbing for telling absolutely nothing
One of the biggest power suppliers tells us that he will not join in any conspiracy against power consumers. I think, its a great declaration and some kind of a guarantee that one day power price will not raise a lot.

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Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 19:09

GREED inc. wrote:
Eleknar wrote:I currently produce a little over 1.2bil power per day and, to tell you the truth, I will always put my power on the market for at least 1 cap below the lowest market price. Keep in mind that you will pretty much always make a profit, however small, selling power. It's cheap to produce and it will always be in demand. Keep in mind that the market is constantly fluctuating. Just because R2 power prices are around 10-13 caps right now doesn't mean that they won't shoot up to 15+ tomorrow. Also, don't forget that the more expensive power is the less power we, the power producers, will be able to sell. This is especially true if power prices stay high for an extended period of time because folks will just produce their own power instead, therefore, not buying ours.
you must be a lawyer ... so much blabbing for telling absolutely nothing
And you must be GREED inc. ... constantly blurting out criticisms while accomplishing nothing by doing so. Rasfasts' explanation for what I was saying is exactly right. Simple as that. And no, I'm not a lawyer but I do work in a courthouse :)

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Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 19:40

Eleknar wrote: And no, I'm not a lawyer but I do work in a courthouse :)
He serves the tea+coffee :P

I make ~500mil power daily on realm 2 and see that it wont change any time soon, i worked out the other day that roughly 53billion power was made daily, that was assuming every power plant was in green and was being used to make power. Im sure since some are in red and osme are out of use it will balance out to that.

53billion isnt a lot. I'm sure that producers of normal goods will feel the pinch later on and start paying more for power and so I dont suspecte this lull to last long, while i dont care where to power prices go(up, down, same) I believe that they will go up, though i shan't help them.

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 19:54

Eleknar wrote:I currently produce a little over 1.2bil power per day ...
... Keep in mind that you will pretty much always ...
... It's cheap to produce and it will always be in demand.
I agree that power is very profitable, but at low price only then if you produce and sell in high volumes. Like you, produce 1.2Bil a day. But the newcomers with small volumes of daily production will face problems of fast expanding. But it is good for us, larger power producers.

I'm fine with prices they are now, but as it looks after gold contest they are steadily dropping and dropping. Just thought how far it will go and how low will be the price when it will become steady.

Anyway, I'm trying to sell my power via contracts, to have steady daily income, to avoid frozen money (my product - power) stuck in market.

That much power are stuck in market... :)

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 20:10

greenPOWER wrote:I agree that power is very profitable, but at low price only then if you produce and sell in high volumes. Like you, produce 1.2Bil a day. But the newcomers with small volumes of daily production will face problems of fast expanding. But it is good for us, larger power producers.
There are a lot of possibilities for beginners to get good profit. If the power is not so profitable - why should a newcomer go to this business? It may be better to produce stones or water or wood.
Don't worry about beginners :) It's very simple to switch to another industry when you have small FA.

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 20:22

I'm not worrying about them I'm happy that low price makes them think if they want to start power business. And it is good for already existing power producers that there is no new power producers, that means we can more easily sell our power and no new competitors in power business :)

I'm not worried at all, I have good customers for my power, of course, looking fore some more customers, just wanted to discuss how low will drop price and of what depends power price dropping :)

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 21:46

[off]Well, i did play loong time ago (started again, was in tib but its like 1yr ago, idk)[/off]
Anyways, i remember the price changed, power is mayb the only thing thats never stable. I have seen it going to 0.26-0.04, so srsly, its not gonna stabilize even it looks like it. I dont like ill have to pay 0.27 for power in realm 1, ist not funny when i have to buy many hundreds of millions power. :x

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.02.2009, 23:02

There's a lot of spare power available because of the current contest. Corn uses 0 power to produce.

Guest

Post by Guest » 22.02.2009, 10:49

rasfast wrote:
GREED inc. wrote:you must be a lawyer ... so much blabbing for telling absolutely nothing
One of the biggest power suppliers tells us that he will not join in any conspiracy against power consumers. I think, its a great declaration and some kind of a guarantee that one day power price will not raise a lot.
Just how much of the power market does the biggest supplier control? 1%? 2%? maybe 5% at most. That is absolutely not enough to keep the power prices down therefore his statement tells us absolutely nothing 8)

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Post by Guest » 22.02.2009, 12:17

GREED inc. wrote:
rasfast wrote:
GREED inc. wrote:you must be a lawyer ... so much blabbing for telling absolutely nothing
One of the biggest power suppliers tells us that he will not join in any conspiracy against power consumers. I think, its a great declaration and some kind of a guarantee that one day power price will not raise a lot.
Just how much of the power market does the biggest supplier control? 1%? 2%? maybe 5% at most. That is absolutely not enough to keep the power prices down therefore his statement tells us absolutely nothing 8)
Like i said i worked out the power output daily for realm 2 and if Elenka is the biggest then 2.4% of the market... Not that much to be honest

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Post by Guest » 22.02.2009, 13:45

GREED inc. wrote:Just how much of the power market does the biggest supplier control? 1%? 2%? maybe 5% at most. That is absolutely not enough to keep the power prices down therefore his statement tells us absolutely nothing 8)
felixbluindustries wrote:Like i said i worked out the power output daily for realm 2 and if Elenka is the biggest then 2.4% of the market... Not that much to be honest
I'm fairly certain that I am not yet the biggest power producer. Actually I think there are possibly one to two companies that produce more power than I do. Anyway, I realize that I have no control over what the power market does and at the current moment there isn't a single company in R2 that has that ability. My original statement was made simply to inform the original poster that the power market will always fluctuate and that's just the way it is. But even though this may be the case still I will not contribute to trying to raise the power prices. Look at companies in real life, such as Wal-Mart. This company has made a good name for itself because it tries to beat the prices set by their competitors. By trying to sell their products for less than everyone else, most everyone else, Wal-Mart has become very popular and well respected around the world. This is what I am trying to accomplish. It's not about chivalry, it's about business.

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