Coins in r1

[Guest]

As you have probably seen, apparently some wacko sent 11k coins to some company.
As you all realize, that means that there is a lot of coins in the game, only problem is that their price is exploding. Every day i see new companies buying coins for (say 10 million) more than other companies and selling them for even higher price.
I must say that i am amused by such development, as it reminds a lot of the irrational explosion of prices in the stock markets in the real world, only to then collapse and hit the rock bottom. We could say that coins in kapilands represents the financial sector in the real world, with the coins being a necessary tool for allowing bigger number of buildings as analogous to loans from banks, which are foundation to economic growth in real world. In these days, financial sector seems to be the dream place of monster incomes, however, people with a bit of insight will probably agree that this giant growth is the first sign of the incoming collapse.
On the other hand, companies who dont base their income on coins speculation dont achieve the supernatural (but unfortunately just imaginary) growth, but will survive the prices collapse with little or no damage to them. We could compare those with the robust real sector of the economy.

Oh and, when the coins prices do start to drop, make sure you have a lot of cash to renew your coins stocks


feel free to share your thoughts about the recent developement of things



oh and another thing, if you take that coins in the beginning (1.1.2007) were worth 50k each (you could sell them to the system for this much)
and that they are worth 100mil, the growth of their prices was about 1.1% per day. Now if you take coins were selling for 60mil 30 days ago, and they sell for 100mil now, the growth in the last 30 days was 1.7%
20 days ago the price of coins was 70mil per coin, giving the growth to be
1.8% etc.
So, when i was a little company with big (huge) growth, i was growing for about 2% daily. Im running a bit short on time so i will present some more calculations later happy new year

[Guest]

Oh and, when the coins prices do start to drop, make sure you have a lot of cash to renew your coins stocks


feel free to share your thoughts about the recent developement of things

Am I allowed to share my thoughts?

The coins-prices are never going to drop.
I don't know where the development in this realm will us lead to, but in the German server 1 we have got a constant price for about three months... at 105-110 million Caps per coin with a slight raising tendency (three months ago we had 105 millions per coin, now it 111 or 112 million Caps/each.

The only interesting thing is to see where the price of coins will end up in this realm.

[Guest]

The coins-prices are never going to drop.

Never say never GoldenEye, think about it and I have said it many times, the coins are going to find a top price. Because companies can only make so much money in a month. Lets say its 10 billion, that can put coins at 500,000,000 a piece before that company stops paying higher. Now not every company makes that. I might only make 1 billion a month, so I can only pay for coins at 50,000,000 a piece. So they might not come down for my price but they sure will stop going up after they get to there limit.

When will that happen no clue. It could be at the end of January or it might never happen, but there is a chance.

[Guest]

The coins-prices are never going to drop.

Never say never GoldenEye, think about it and I have said it many times, the coins are going to find a top price. Because companies can only make so much money in a month. Lets say its 10 billion, that can put coins at 500,000,000 a piece before that company stops paying higher. Now not every company makes that. I might only make 1 billion a month, so I can only pay for coins at 50,000,000 a piece. So they might not come down for my price but they sure will stop going up after they get to there limit.

When will that happen no clue. It could be at the end of January or it might never happen, but there is a chance.

You say he should never say never, but you give us no reason to conclude the opposite.

His only statement is they will never drop, he doesn't say they won't reach a max level.
Your answer looks like a reply to someone who claims the price won't ever reach a max.


Goldeneye is right.
The price won't ever drop.
It might reach a certain level where its nearly impossible to make a profit anymore with the given benefits from those coins, but they indeed won't drop.

Those who currently buy them probably won't see a reason to ever sell them.
People intend to continue play this game and consider it possible to continue for another 5 years.
They want to make sure they have the coins to do so.

1 year is 12 months x 20 coins.
So 240 coins/year.
To continue playing for 5 years you would need 1200 coins.

So untill any top 100 company has 1200 coins there will be no need to let the value drop.


Added to that people won't allow it to drop just to not make a loss and many companies would probably prefer to buy coins and use them for status symbols.
Another reason to continue buying coins even when the benefits are slim might be the mere fact stacking cash ingame is useless to.

You either buy coins and trade them for status symbols or you keep getting more cash with which you won't be able to do anything at some point.
That being the point where all your buildings are at their maximum size and you just don't have anything else to invest your cash into.


Only reason for coin price dropping might be many people with coins decide to just quit the game.
But at that point, why would you sell your coins and stack a huge amount of cash???
There really isn't a single reason at all!!!
The best way to ensure maintainance of the value of your money is to just buy coins when you quit playing and might at some point resume playing.
Those who just quit playing just won't benefit from selling them.
When you quit the account....what will you do with the ingame cash anyway???


These things will ensure the coin price won't drop no matter what.
They might go up and down a few millions at some point, like from 110 to 105 and back up to 110 again, but they won't ever drop more then 10% no matter what happens.

[Guest]

I make Ronintje words as my own, therefore fully agree with him.

[Guest]

coin prices WILL never drop
but when more "funny" people who sells 10k coins to other people
i will see there will be a oversupply of such coins and there will be a hilarious ending

But, my own opinion is that the coin prices WILL find a top price in the future, but that future is not in the short run

if anyone know economics
this is the classical example of a long run Aggregate supply keynesian curve,

[Guest]

The coins-prices are never going to drop.

Never say never GoldenEye, think about it and I have said it many times, the coins are going to find a top price. Because companies can only make so much money in a month. Lets say its 10 billion, that can put coins at 500,000,000 a piece before that company stops paying higher. Now not every company makes that. I might only make 1 billion a month, so I can only pay for coins at 50,000,000 a piece. So they might not come down for my price but they sure will stop going up after they get to there limit.

When will that happen no clue. It could be at the end of January or it might never happen, but there is a chance.

Dammit i wanted to be the smart person who said that, but yes this is why the coin price will eventually cool.

[Guest]

If coinprice wont be dropping, i hope they will very soon stop raising. Atm im at 250 in FA and i find it very hard to keep on buying my 20 coins a month.
When prices keep on rising like they do now, soon only the elite 50 or so will be able to afford them. When that happens, only people buying coins with real money and that top 50 will be able to afford VIP.
This will make that 40% of the existing buildings will become idle (loss of VIP= losing 40 of your 100 buildings).
That would cause a huge drop in production making everything more expensive again.
Or im I seeing things wrong here?

[Guest]

the thing this game runs on... is buying coins from real money... no buying coins is no income for the moderators... and the game will disappear... The reason why there are high prices... is the limited supply of coins... everybody is keeping them for themselves

[Guest]

Yeah, guys who don't pay real money can't expect to run 100 buildings. If you don't buy 5 or 10 years worth of coins first, you should never build that 61st building.

[Guest]

The coins-prices are never going to drop.

Never say never GoldenEye, think about it and I have said it many times, the coins are going to find a top price. Because companies can only make so much money in a month. Lets say its 10 billion, that can put coins at 500,000,000 a piece before that company stops paying higher. Now not every company makes that. I might only make 1 billion a month, so I can only pay for coins at 50,000,000 a piece. So they might not come down for my price but they sure will stop going up after they get to there limit.

When will that happen no clue. It could be at the end of January or it might never happen, but there is a chance.

Dammit i wanted to be the smart person who said that, but yes this is why the coin price will eventually cool.

HAHA beat you

[Guest]

Dammit i wanted to be the smart person who said that, but yes this is why the coin price will eventually cool.

HAHA beat you

Well... it doesn't matter, because you both are not correct.

The speed of the price-increase might slow down, but still the prices will raise. From time to time coin-prices will be constant for a while but they will not drop.
Maybe if some of the leading companies decide to offer their coins-stock but this is only a deferment then... not a real sinking.

Regards
GoldenEye

[Guest]

i think the price will stablelise... still go up but not as exponantional as they did this year. you know 2008

greets

[Guest]

goldeneye, belive this:the price WILL drop

only 1 '[censored]' has to do it.

look at the IRL market.

coins in R2 are now 6 mil. is someone buys 1k coins from kapi(ok thats 100 euros.. but some people are that crazy to do it) and sell them for 5m ea, when all is gone, he buys another 1k coins.

a friend of mine played an online game which name i wont say, and the prices dropped there from 1.000 to 60 dollar!

i predict that as if 1 '[censored]' comes, nasenprinz would have a very good eyar, and prices drop.

look at china, cheap produce, new companies get cheaper and the old ones go even cheaper to almost making cost.

regards//jan1666 R2

[Guest]

goldeneye, belive this:the price WILL drop

only 1 '[censored]' has to do it.

look at the IRL market.

coins in R2 are now 6 mil. is someone buys 1k coins from kapi(ok thats 100 euros.. but some people are that crazy to do it) and sell them for 5m ea, when all is gone, he buys another 1k coins.

a friend of mine played an online game which name i wont say, and the prices dropped there from 1.000 to 60 dollar!

i predict that as if 1 '[censored]' comes, nasenprinz would have a very good eyar, and prices drop.

look at china, cheap produce, new companies get cheaper and the old ones go even cheaper to almost making cost.

regards//jan1666 R2

what about inflation?