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well... you are wrong... there is currently only one person deciding on the power price... and that is meGevron Enterprises wrote:well, the fact is the power producers are indeed pushing up the prices too much
possibly due to higher demand in power
well, it is cuasing inflation a lot in kapilands
I buy power for 0,23 at the moment... and if I decide to buy for 0,25 then the price will increase even further... or if I decide to lower the price to 0,10 then the price will drop instantly power be a little higher than that .... 0.07-0.09. and if more companies that sell their products in stores sold at a higher price lifting the ave price this would eventually make this price cheap. as it is many companies are selling at prices that drag the ave market price down thus reducing all sellers profitability. the high raw material cost is just further diminishing their ability to make good progress.Pegrin wrote:I figure that current prices are unsustainable. It wasn't long ago that Realm 2 prices for power were around .06. My guess is that that, or a little lower, is roughly the "natural" (i.e., unmanipulated) price.
selling power for 0,06 when the market price is averaging 0.14-0.15 (higher during peak time) is rather unfair practice if you ask me. It would be like selling steel 0Q for 60c, or wood 0Q for 18c...Eleknar wrote:I sell all my power for 0.06 caps, exclusively to TIB members except for lately because of all the expansions I've been doing...
mysef is very smart to be doing this and i have started to collect my caps aswell, i only make about 180-240 million caps a day so it will take a while to build up my money but when i do i will make sure to keep the power price high. Just as long as myself doesnt release tthat power for about a monthmyself wrote:well... you are wrong... there is currently only one person deciding on the power price... and that is meGevron Enterprises wrote:well, the fact is the power producers are indeed pushing up the prices too much
possibly due to higher demand in power
well, it is cuasing inflation a lot in kapilands
I am not only one of the biggest power producers in this world... no I also have without any doubt the biggest stock of power... a couple of houndred billions to be exact. And that power (plus my money of course) gives me the power to control the market...
Why am I doing this? Well... I am trying to get rid of all my money... but I don't manage to! even though I buy power and water for ridiculous prices (0,23 is really too high!) I still get more money from selling coins (for equally ridiculous prices... 20 million per coins... that's a joke right?) than I spend on power!
But hey, look at the bright side... when I am fed up with collecting power I might choose to lower power prices again...
you are missing the point here. selling cheap when the market price is much higher is not the same as selling at a fair price. and being able to buy it so cheap is not fair for other players who are buying it at market price. it goes the same for all materials/products, not just power. hence selling at a discount/premium is fair if the price does not deviate too much from the current market price. and we are talking about a material that's been sold for 57% cheaper with market price of 0,14c as reference.Canadian Energy Corp. wrote:If it is unfair for anybody it is for him. I buy power from Eleknar, around 6.5 million/day. He sells for the fairest price around. Eleknar knows that when the bubble pops and power prices plummet he won't be stranded looking for customers
you see, allowing prices like that to trade opens up the avenue for one to blatantly pump up one account with another, legally!Pegrin wrote:Why is it fair for billionaires to manipulate the power market to drive the price up, but not fair for someone to sell power at the price it was before the price manipulation? Both moves have rational motives. I happen to think that market manipulation is the bigger loser. Missing a little profit and building customer loyalty seem like more solid strategy. As long as no one is blatantly pumping up one account with another, it's all good.
No one's saying 0.10c is unfair, when the market is selling for 0.14c. In fact, that would be the fairest discounted price. Nevertheless, let's leave it to the game mods to decide whether it is fair to give a 57% discount to 'trade' members. I know Milenko has been asking in other threads what would be fair, and i applaud that. So, i think there should be some guidelines established for this. Everything inside these guidelines would be most welcomed as fair practice.Eleknar wrote:lol, I love when people complain that I am selling power for an unfair price. Which is it? If I sell for 0.10 or more it's unfair because it's too high. If I sell for 0.06 it's unfair because it's too low. The way I see it is it only cost me 0.01 to make power so what's so terrible about selling for 0.05 caps more than what it cost me to make it? I'm not selling at or below production cost so I see nothing wrong with it. All I see is a person or two that appears a bit upset because they can't get power for 0.06 as well. TIB is open to the public which means anyone can join anytime. You want cheaper power take your chances with them.
