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Some questions to think about?
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First, interesting topic. Second, more interesting that i read through all the post here.
This topic only applies to those that believes in God; and of course dbsuma already answer on behalf of the theory that the term God was created by man in order to instill faith and to deal with unanswerable questions etc. So i will skip that part.
Second, isn't time is relative? I am no physicist but as far as i think i know, time is relative, and it is continuous and it will be in a loop. It was also stated earlier that Man need not be created right after Earth, hence dinosaurs can be earlier, but why, isn't it like asking why God create man in the first place? or why God created Earth? or any other thing. Putting that aside, the Q was more towards did man co-exists with dinosaurs to begin with then the better Q is how long can a bones be preserved? (due take note that humans bones and dinosaurs bone would most likely have different in bone density etc.) In evaluation theory, on the other hand, the oldest living is not even dinosaurs, its all being draw back to (ok even if we stick to living visible to naked eyes) would be creatures of the seas. Now back to the Q, so the simplicity answer would be, WHY NOT? i bet it boils down to what you believe, and even in bible it mentioned that human was created, but you do must know that human is the one that wrote it, and of coz, details will taken out from it, it can't be put in order what was create in between right? i.e. 1. Earth (includes water, soil, air etc. 2. Plants (includes mimosa pudica
and so on right
Well now i better go to sleep.... sorry if this sounds ridiculous but i am sleepy
This topic only applies to those that believes in God; and of course dbsuma already answer on behalf of the theory that the term God was created by man in order to instill faith and to deal with unanswerable questions etc. So i will skip that part.
Second, isn't time is relative? I am no physicist but as far as i think i know, time is relative, and it is continuous and it will be in a loop. It was also stated earlier that Man need not be created right after Earth, hence dinosaurs can be earlier, but why, isn't it like asking why God create man in the first place? or why God created Earth? or any other thing. Putting that aside, the Q was more towards did man co-exists with dinosaurs to begin with then the better Q is how long can a bones be preserved? (due take note that humans bones and dinosaurs bone would most likely have different in bone density etc.) In evaluation theory, on the other hand, the oldest living is not even dinosaurs, its all being draw back to (ok even if we stick to living visible to naked eyes) would be creatures of the seas. Now back to the Q, so the simplicity answer would be, WHY NOT? i bet it boils down to what you believe, and even in bible it mentioned that human was created, but you do must know that human is the one that wrote it, and of coz, details will taken out from it, it can't be put in order what was create in between right? i.e. 1. Earth (includes water, soil, air etc. 2. Plants (includes mimosa pudica
and so on right Well now i better go to sleep.... sorry if this sounds ridiculous but i am sleepy
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Not sure if this is on topic, but I would like to add another point and maybe expand the question a bit.
God is the father, son and holy ghost. God is where we came from, God is where we are going to,, and God is everything in between.
Notice in this statement God is always put into human context? My father is a human, my son is a human (when I have one) and ghosts used to be human (I haven't seen a dino-ghost yet). So God must be like a human...
The question I like to contemplate is... What/Who is Christ?
Did anyone here the conversation Jesus had with John(disciple)? John was having trouble understanding some things that Jesus was saying. Jesus told John that he did not understand a lot of things because John didn't yet understand the Christ within himself. Jesus said "I and Jesus Christ. You are John Christ. You are as much Christ as I am but you don't yet understand what it means to be with Christ."
Now don't quote me on what Jesus said, it's been years since I read the bible. I have read it all except that nasty book "The Book of Numbers". I read it to put me to sleep while I was studying third year math at uni. I seemed to sleep through so many lectures and tutorials that I had trouble sleeping at night
. So there are four things to think about now when contemplating God. The father, son, holy spirit and Christ. The difference between the son and Christ is that the son will come in the future, like my son hopefully, and Christ is always in the present.
Christ, in my definition, is a/every live human. When you are born, you are born with god in and around you. As you grow you become aware of society around you. The Christ on earth is every living human being together (society). So if you do something to someone think that you are doing it to Christ, even when you are doing something to yourself.
Now,,, to those questions.
So it would appear that talking in the context of Humans and God, is like playing rock, paper, scissors. One created the other and vice versa (I don't like Latin).
I studied statistics. Modern statistics haven't been around that long. I mean there was always averages and humans have been calculating averages for eons. We haven't been calculating ANOVA (ANalisys Of VAriance) for more that 40 years. Statistics is one of the youngest fields of science. Many Stats text books have been written making older text obsolete. Things get old, re-written or thrown away. This is an ongoing precess.
I also studied Communication. Now let me rant a little bit more here. In the field of communication the author/speaker needs to know a few things before delivering a message. First is the language the audience understands. There are a lot of other things that will help the author/speaker get his message across more precisely like the age of the target audience but these are all just demographics.
Over time and translation, things don't mean that same thing to the audience. Imagine trying to sell computers to Moses. He probably wouldn't understand what they are used for. So although I am religious (Christian) I don't take the bible literally. I mean God created everything, but not in 7 days.
Now if you put both questions together it sort of sounds like 2 kids making a cake. We have a cook book, a lot of different ingredients and the 2 kids love eating cake,,, but that doesn't mean we end up with something edible. When I was young I used to put all the egg shells in which my grandmother didn't understand. My grandfather thought it was funny though.
OMG I just previewed this post. I hope it will fit on one page.
God is the father, son and holy ghost. God is where we came from, God is where we are going to,, and God is everything in between.
Notice in this statement God is always put into human context? My father is a human, my son is a human (when I have one) and ghosts used to be human (I haven't seen a dino-ghost yet). So God must be like a human...
The question I like to contemplate is... What/Who is Christ?
Did anyone here the conversation Jesus had with John(disciple)? John was having trouble understanding some things that Jesus was saying. Jesus told John that he did not understand a lot of things because John didn't yet understand the Christ within himself. Jesus said "I and Jesus Christ. You are John Christ. You are as much Christ as I am but you don't yet understand what it means to be with Christ."
Now don't quote me on what Jesus said, it's been years since I read the bible. I have read it all except that nasty book "The Book of Numbers". I read it to put me to sleep while I was studying third year math at uni. I seemed to sleep through so many lectures and tutorials that I had trouble sleeping at night
. So there are four things to think about now when contemplating God. The father, son, holy spirit and Christ. The difference between the son and Christ is that the son will come in the future, like my son hopefully, and Christ is always in the present.Christ, in my definition, is a/every live human. When you are born, you are born with god in and around you. As you grow you become aware of society around you. The Christ on earth is every living human being together (society). So if you do something to someone think that you are doing it to Christ, even when you are doing something to yourself.
Now,,, to those questions.
God is God. God was the first, last and everything in between. So God created God. Could this be taken as Christ made God? If Christ is the son and the only son of God, then does this mean God created Christ (and then sent him to earth)? Further, if you are a good human we are told that we go to heaven, to be closer to God. Does this mean that after death we join with the holy spirit? This could mean that the holy spirit is created by God and Christ.Who made "god" or how did he form?
So it would appear that talking in the context of Humans and God, is like playing rock, paper, scissors. One created the other and vice versa (I don't like Latin).
This confusion can be blamed on the editors/sub-editors. I am sure that we will never know what the original scriptures looked like. Things get old. Things get re-written. Things get translated and still other things get thrown away. Islam is the youngest religion as far as the big five are concerned. Yet many things that are written in the Koran seem a little out of context in the present. The Bible is even more out of context to todays society.God created the earth right well after he was done he put man on the Earth right yet the dinosaurs where before man how is this possible? You may argue that the dinosaurs ate them but if they did that how did man come back?
I studied statistics. Modern statistics haven't been around that long. I mean there was always averages and humans have been calculating averages for eons. We haven't been calculating ANOVA (ANalisys Of VAriance) for more that 40 years. Statistics is one of the youngest fields of science. Many Stats text books have been written making older text obsolete. Things get old, re-written or thrown away. This is an ongoing precess.
I also studied Communication. Now let me rant a little bit more here. In the field of communication the author/speaker needs to know a few things before delivering a message. First is the language the audience understands. There are a lot of other things that will help the author/speaker get his message across more precisely like the age of the target audience but these are all just demographics.
Over time and translation, things don't mean that same thing to the audience. Imagine trying to sell computers to Moses. He probably wouldn't understand what they are used for. So although I am religious (Christian) I don't take the bible literally. I mean God created everything, but not in 7 days.
Now if you put both questions together it sort of sounds like 2 kids making a cake. We have a cook book, a lot of different ingredients and the 2 kids love eating cake,,, but that doesn't mean we end up with something edible. When I was young I used to put all the egg shells in which my grandmother didn't understand. My grandfather thought it was funny though.
OMG I just previewed this post. I hope it will fit on one page.
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:!:The views expressed is of a personal philosophical view of life.
i agree with dbsuma's post. every last word of it.
Man created GOD and it is as simple as that. Religions used GOD(s) to control the masses. and this might sound ridiculous to "believers", but we are our own gods.
we are the ones who shape the world with huge structures and amazing creations. hell, we even have ideas how to terra-form planets (still in theory stages). and to bring my point home to the readers, in the eyes of our children we could be considered as gods; we created, care for, provide and protect them. (i could explain more, but i'm writing for those who can understand and think freely. and freely means without the doctrine of religions)
I cant explain how the earth, planets and lifeforms get into existence, but i do know this, there is a force in the universe which is more powerful than any god on or above earth.
and lets think about this ppl, if heaven is above our heads and hell is under our feet then why havent we seen them yet or have any substantial evidence of their existence. (its all metaphors)
i agree with dbsuma's post. every last word of it.
Man created GOD and it is as simple as that. Religions used GOD(s) to control the masses. and this might sound ridiculous to "believers", but we are our own gods.
we are the ones who shape the world with huge structures and amazing creations. hell, we even have ideas how to terra-form planets (still in theory stages). and to bring my point home to the readers, in the eyes of our children we could be considered as gods; we created, care for, provide and protect them. (i could explain more, but i'm writing for those who can understand and think freely. and freely means without the doctrine of religions)
I cant explain how the earth, planets and lifeforms get into existence, but i do know this, there is a force in the universe which is more powerful than any god on or above earth.
and lets think about this ppl, if heaven is above our heads and hell is under our feet then why havent we seen them yet or have any substantial evidence of their existence. (its all metaphors)
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You also may want to look up the "law of large numbers."
Simply stated, it's saying that even with completely unrelated events, if there are enough of them, some will appear together and thus look like they're connected. Even if they aren't.
However, 4 five enterprise, it seems that you're rejecting the entire concept based on flaws in the explanations. So there's no physical heaven or hell as was once thought. It was a flawed explanation, but that doesn't disprove God. And even the Catholic Church no longer holds to Hell as a physical place, they say it's more a metaphysical state of being.
Just because we can't explain it, or even agree on a flawed explanation, that doesn't mean there's nothing to be explained. Consider gravity. Isaac Newton wrote the law of universal gravitation in the 17th century. Before that, they were flawed attempts to explain it. They would say water flows to the sea, because that's where water's home is. A rock falls to the earth, because it belongs there. Smoke rises toward the sun, because that's where all fire goes. And they classified the world this way.
This was a flawed theory, as Galileo eventually demonstrated. Clearly though he wasn't disproving gravity. He was only finding flaws in the theory. Fortunately, those gave way to a better explanation, yielding a fuller understanding of the universe.
You're right in that many, many explanations can be discredited. The sun is not God's chariot moving across the sky. The Black Plague didn't move from village to village because they were sinners. Our ancestors aren't sitting on top of clouds playing harps. Etc.
It may even be that there is no God "person" as we would understand the word. (Though I'm not saying this can be proven.) What if God for you was Nature, and a system of laws. That definition is every bit as narrow as a personified diety, but it provides a place to jump off from. Let that God exist, and encompass all the laws of physics we know, as well as the ones we don't understand yet. In that sense it is God that makes the earth turn, and created the universe from nothing, and gives us all life. (That last bit being one process we really can't explain.)
Now back up and look at these two scenarios side by side. One is saying there's a omnipotent God that controls everything, a being that we dont' understand, except that He exists. The other is saying there's an all encompassing set of rules, much of which we don't understand, but we're pretty sure they're defineable.
That's not too far apart. Really it's just quibbling over details.
Let religion take a step over, and acknowledge that "God being" is not necessarily a human form that you or I would recognize. Then nature steps over and says "system God" includes a lot of things we can only guess at, if that, much of what contradicts the known.
Religion steps over again, yielding that "God being" functions by setting rules which themselves control day to day cause & effect. Science steps over and appreciates that maybe someday this "God system" will be well enough understood to have answers for questions we wouldn't even put to science now, the "why" questions (like morality, why do somethings feel "right" to us and others feel "wrong", even if we can't agree on them? Why this desire to understand the world anyway?)
To me, these are ultimately occupying the same position. The only flaw I see is when someone tries to get too specific. Once either side says "this is exactly all there is," that's setting up to be wrong. Whether they're saying the earth was created in 7 days, or that the laws of motion are absolute, both would be a bad place to hang your hat. (Evolution and Relativity, respectively.)
And both have hard to believe things. Christianity says Jesus walked on water. But science now says the same subatomic particle can occupy two spaces at the same time. That's at least as ridiculous, and I'm not willing to settle on some narrow definition of "there is nothing greater" when there's so much we don't understand.
God is indeed in the details. And the details are largely unknown.
Simply stated, it's saying that even with completely unrelated events, if there are enough of them, some will appear together and thus look like they're connected. Even if they aren't.
However, 4 five enterprise, it seems that you're rejecting the entire concept based on flaws in the explanations. So there's no physical heaven or hell as was once thought. It was a flawed explanation, but that doesn't disprove God. And even the Catholic Church no longer holds to Hell as a physical place, they say it's more a metaphysical state of being.
Just because we can't explain it, or even agree on a flawed explanation, that doesn't mean there's nothing to be explained. Consider gravity. Isaac Newton wrote the law of universal gravitation in the 17th century. Before that, they were flawed attempts to explain it. They would say water flows to the sea, because that's where water's home is. A rock falls to the earth, because it belongs there. Smoke rises toward the sun, because that's where all fire goes. And they classified the world this way.
This was a flawed theory, as Galileo eventually demonstrated. Clearly though he wasn't disproving gravity. He was only finding flaws in the theory. Fortunately, those gave way to a better explanation, yielding a fuller understanding of the universe.
You're right in that many, many explanations can be discredited. The sun is not God's chariot moving across the sky. The Black Plague didn't move from village to village because they were sinners. Our ancestors aren't sitting on top of clouds playing harps. Etc.
It may even be that there is no God "person" as we would understand the word. (Though I'm not saying this can be proven.) What if God for you was Nature, and a system of laws. That definition is every bit as narrow as a personified diety, but it provides a place to jump off from. Let that God exist, and encompass all the laws of physics we know, as well as the ones we don't understand yet. In that sense it is God that makes the earth turn, and created the universe from nothing, and gives us all life. (That last bit being one process we really can't explain.)
Now back up and look at these two scenarios side by side. One is saying there's a omnipotent God that controls everything, a being that we dont' understand, except that He exists. The other is saying there's an all encompassing set of rules, much of which we don't understand, but we're pretty sure they're defineable.
That's not too far apart. Really it's just quibbling over details.
Let religion take a step over, and acknowledge that "God being" is not necessarily a human form that you or I would recognize. Then nature steps over and says "system God" includes a lot of things we can only guess at, if that, much of what contradicts the known.
Religion steps over again, yielding that "God being" functions by setting rules which themselves control day to day cause & effect. Science steps over and appreciates that maybe someday this "God system" will be well enough understood to have answers for questions we wouldn't even put to science now, the "why" questions (like morality, why do somethings feel "right" to us and others feel "wrong", even if we can't agree on them? Why this desire to understand the world anyway?)
To me, these are ultimately occupying the same position. The only flaw I see is when someone tries to get too specific. Once either side says "this is exactly all there is," that's setting up to be wrong. Whether they're saying the earth was created in 7 days, or that the laws of motion are absolute, both would be a bad place to hang your hat. (Evolution and Relativity, respectively.)
And both have hard to believe things. Christianity says Jesus walked on water. But science now says the same subatomic particle can occupy two spaces at the same time. That's at least as ridiculous, and I'm not willing to settle on some narrow definition of "there is nothing greater" when there's so much we don't understand.
God is indeed in the details. And the details are largely unknown.
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again i lost myself reading your post so i quit after this paragraph
so yeah i skimmed through it and yeah i agreePerson that needs to put a summary at the end of his 12 page post wrote: It may even be that there is no God "person" as we would understand the word. (Though I'm not saying this can be proven.) What if God for you was Nature, and a system of laws. That definition is every bit as narrow as a personified diety, but it provides a place to jump off from. Let that God exist, and encompass all the laws of physics we know, as well as the ones we don't understand yet. In that sense it is God that makes the earth turn, and created the universe from nothing, and gives us all life. (That last bit being one process we really can't explain.)
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Re: Some questions to think about?
1. There is NO god - it's just a fiction made by the global church to control people easier.farmboy wrote:First Question
Who made "god" or how did he form?
Second question
God created the earth right well after he was done he put man on the Earth right yet the dinosaurs where before man how is this possible? You may argue that the dinosaurs ate them but if they did that how did man come back?
Good Luck Post here if you have an idea?
Oh yes I will question every post weather i believe in it or not
2. For a second time - there is no god. The Human has appeared after the dinosaurs and somehow the Human has survived. I don't know how but the selfdefense instincts of Human are powerful "weapon".
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god didnt creat earth
about 13billion light years ago there was a big bang creating gases such as helium and carbon.
those created the earth and all the other planets in the galixy
they think all the gravity in planets will push the planets to hit each other witch is called the big crunch
and that my friend is the end of the world
but if you think about it
it could be just like another big bang
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about 13billion light years ago there was a big bang creating gases such as helium and carbon.
those created the earth and all the other planets in the galixy
they think all the gravity in planets will push the planets to hit each other witch is called the big crunch
and that my friend is the end of the world
but if you think about it
it could be just like another big bang
cheers
matt
age 13
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