timeout for market sell

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timeout for market sell

Post by Guest » 23.04.2007, 10:39

when selling at the market, products may be stuck because the price is higher than more recent offers.

the idea is to have a validity time for the sell (let's say a week). if nothing is sell after this time, products go back to the warehouse.

market fees could be debited friom the account .

Guest

Post by Guest » 23.04.2007, 14:51

If you still loose the market fee you might as well just buy them back.

Guest

Post by Guest » 23.04.2007, 16:33

this is not a beginner's question or a bug.

it's a suggestions

Guest

Post by Guest » 24.04.2007, 06:10

No, I don't like it, the more products on the market regardless of the price is always better.

Besides that would also mean that the goods posted by noobs who only play for a week and other inactive players would be returned to unused accounts and not reposted at lower prices.

Say you wanted to expand into a new area and needed those good, that have now been returned to inactive accounts, you'll lose out.

Some goods only one one or two listings, you goods will always look more appealing if you are selling for $100 and the only other price is $10, 000 even if it has been there for 3 years.

You can always buy them back but I have suggested a change price option on the "Own adds" page, so you don't have to pay fee's twice.

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Post by Tycoon » 24.04.2007, 09:40

There are different issues...

First of all: there are enough players saying: if I pay 10% commission for my market offers, I do not want to have them deleted from the market!

Second: what to do if (what is maybe not the case now, but later) the warehouse is full? you do not have space for more products...

Third: if the 10% commission is being paid back... people will spam the markets, wait a week and get their products back in case they are not sold, as they can save these 10%...

Fourth: what about contests? Products (and I am of course not talking about one stone for 100,000 caps) can become easily more expensive... and then also be sold.

Fifth: you can easily sort all items by clicking on "price", you will have the cheapest offer at the top of the page. So the expensive ones should not really disturb anybody....

Sixth: there are some products with only very few offers. Sending old offers back to the warehouses would mean that there are even less offers in these parts of the market. And that could also lead to higher prices.... ;-)

Guest

Post by Guest » 26.04.2007, 20:01

you convince me.

I withdraw my proposal.

Guest

Compromise?

Post by Guest » 19.05.2007, 01:26

I agree in principal with not getting a complete refund, you posted it and you take the risk. How about:

1. You can cancel the sell - you lose the whole of the commission
2. Item times out - you get 25% of the commission back

If you do not have enough warehouse slots, you can't cancel the sell. 24 hours before the time out, system prompts you and if you don't make space available, then it deletes it.

People genuinely put in the wrong price sometimes and then the only way to fix it is to buy your own goods back at a huge loss.

Guest

Post by Guest » 19.05.2007, 07:05

i dont like the idea of gettin back ur products after a week. i had put soem milk in the market cause i didnt need it so i just put it and it got sold after 3 weeks. so do u think if i dont need the stuff i put it in the market with the fee and then get it back after a week and then put it again for the fee? :evil:

Guest

Timing

Post by Guest » 19.05.2007, 09:55

A week isn't a hard and fast rule, I just suggested a week because that was what the original poster put, but there needs to be some method to clear up the markets. Somebody selling water[0] at 1,000 per unit can never realistically expect to sell it and it is just sitting out there gathering dust. In the real world things have a sell and use by date, so why not products on the open market?
Maybe give the user an option on the sell screen to put in a buy back date or something? Something like, "How many days to list item?"

Guest

Post by Guest » 19.05.2007, 16:22

It has been suggested before and shot down. One of the better reasons is what happens if you have to put products back in a warehouse that's full? And some people like having them out there forever.

I agree in principle though. Some of them are just plain silly and annoying to lookout. But more practically, I think all the long-standing non-selling offers make their markets appear different than they actually are. For example, if you looked at the cocoa powder market, you might think it's perfectly fine to list at 75, since there's plenty already listed there. But if that's been hanging out there several weeks it's not a very reliable indicator.

But it's not likely to happen. And personally I'd have absolutely no problems leaving offers out there if we had a better indicator - transaction history.

Guest

Post by Guest » 19.05.2007, 21:21

Why not just have items on sale for longer than say 1 month change the post colour to red that way we could all see that the item has been there for a "period" would also make reporting High cost cheaters much easier :-)

Guest

Post by Guest » 21.05.2007, 22:54

The idea of the average price of goods bought off the market in the last week would be a good idea. But what happens to iteams that are on the market from companies that no longer exsist?

Guest

Lost seller

Post by Guest » 25.05.2007, 22:25

If the seller doesn't exist anymore, then just delete it. I know its not a real world solution, but it sure makes the Database work easier

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